linux-kernel - Re: loading firmware while usermodehelper disabled.

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Message-ID: <20120102235044.23935096@pyramind.ukuu.org.uk>
Date:	Mon, 2 Jan 2012 23:50:44 +0000
From:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Jack Stone <jwjstone@...tmail.fm>,
	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
	Oliver Neukum <oliver@...kum.org>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg@...hat.com>,
	Dave Jones <davej@...hat.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@...inger.net>,
	Chaoming Li <chaoming_li@...lsil.com.cn>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@...driver.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...e.de>,
	USB list <linux-usb@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux Wireless List <linux-wireless@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: loading firmware while usermodehelper disabled.

> So the only thing we need is to fix the braindamaged firmware
> interfaces. We need caching, and we need to replace (or at least
> extend) "load_firware()" with "[get|put]_firmware()".

So at what moment after a resume does a firmware that was in use with a
device go away and what do we do about devices inserted while suspended ?

Remembering that

- there is no moment when USB says 'we have finished re-enumeration'.
  There is no point at which you can say 'we have finished
  re-enumeration, we are now starting on enumeration of new stuff'. New
  stuff wanting firmware will pop up on resume mixed in with old stuff.

- we don't seem to have any device or bus infrastructure for doing a
  'post resume' purge of such data if we could decide when that moment
  is ?

Alan
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