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Message-ID: <5C4C569E8A4B9B42A84A977CF070A35B2C5827BBD8@USINDEVS01.corp.hds.com>
Date:	Mon, 9 Jan 2012 12:59:51 -0500
From:	Seiji Aguchi <seiji.aguchi@....com>
To:	Don Zickus <dzickus@...hat.com>, "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@...el.com>
CC:	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg@...hat.com>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@...hat.com>,
	"Chen, Gong" <gong.chen@...el.com>,
	"akpm@...ux-foundation.org" <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"Brown, Len" <len.brown@...el.com>,
	"'ying.huang@...el.com'" <'ying.huang@...el.com'>,
	"'ak@...ux.intel.com'" <'ak@...ux.intel.com'>,
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	"a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl" <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	"namhyung@...il.com" <namhyung@...il.com>,
	"dle-develop@...ts.sourceforge.net" 
	<dle-develop@...ts.sourceforge.net>,
	Satoru Moriya <satoru.moriya@....com>
Subject: RE: [RFC][PATCH v4 -next 1/4] Move kmsg_dump(KMSG_DUMP_PANIC) below
 smp_send_stop()

>
>I don't know how to prove something is hardened other than not seeing any
>hangs or false reboots on in that piece of code.
>

I don't know how we can prove reliability of smp_send_stop() of all archs as well.

Another possible solution is replacing smp_send_stop() with 
machine_crash_shutdown().
This is a function call stopping other cpus reliably in panic situation
so that kdump can work .
But, I don't know whether it works in all archs.
We need further discussion with Eric for checking this idea is feasible...


I would like to go forward step by step rather than doing tough work at once.
I think just moving kmsg_dump() below smp_send_stop() is a good start for improving pstore.

Seiji
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