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Message-ID: <20120109201110.GA8377@kroah.com>
Date:	Mon, 9 Jan 2012 12:11:10 -0800
From:	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>
To:	Mark Brown <broonie@...nsource.wolfsonmicro.com>
Cc:	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@....linux.org.uk>,
	Frank Mandarino <fmandarino@...relia.com>,
	Liam Girdwood <lrg@...com>, Jaroslav Kysela <perex@...ex.cz>,
	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@...e.de>, alsa-devel@...a-project.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Public ridicule due to sound/soc/soc-core.c abuse of the driver
 model

On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 07:52:13PM +0000, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 09:51:25AM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> 
> > Anything which helps reduce the abuses of the driver model is a plus -
> > it helps remove the possibility of kernel oopses.
> 
> Trying to make any sort of modification to code this fragile is risky,
> especially during what's supposed to be a stabalization phase (which is
> what Greg is requesting).  It just seems completely irresponsible for
> something that isn't actually a practical problem.

I find it hard to believe that ignoring the driver model is not a
"practical" problem :)

For details as to why this is a problem, please see the kobject.txt
file.

Please fix this up, as you have seen, people end up cutting-and-pasting
bad code.

greg k-h
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