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Message-ID: <1326746949.3467.16.camel@lenny>
Date:	Mon, 16 Jan 2012 15:49:07 -0500
From:	Colin Walters <walters@...bum.org>
To:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] PR_SET_NO_NEW_PRIVS, unshare, and chroot

On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 16:37 -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> To make the no_new_privs discussion more concrete, here is an updated
> series that is actually useful.  It adds PR_SET_NO_NEW_PRIVS

I think it'd be clearer to call it PR_SET_NOSUID - basically it should
match the semantics for MS_NOSUID mounts, as if on every exec()
thereafter the target binary was on a nosuid filesystem.

You might then change this flag to only take effect on a later exec(),
which would solve your race condition for the hypothetical PAM module.

>  with the
> same semantics as before (plus John Johansen's AppArmor fix and with
> improved bisectability).  It then allows some unshare flags 

What's the rationale behind the unshare subset?  Did you actually
analyze any setuid binaries found on Debian/Fedora etc. and determined
that e.g. CLONE_NEWNET was problematic for some reason?

I actually want CLONE_NEWNET for my build tool, so I can be sure the
arbitrary code I'm executing as part of the build at least isn't
downloading more new code.


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