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Message-ID: <20120124205502.GC20039@us.ibm.com>
Date:	Tue, 24 Jan 2012 12:55:02 -0800
From:	Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@...onical.com>,
	Dave Hansen <haveblue@...ibm.com>,
	Andy Whitcroft <apw@...onical.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	Matt Helsley <matthltc@...ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, containers@...ts.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] fix devpts mount behavior

Linus Torvalds [torvalds@...ux-foundation.org] wrote:
| On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Serge Hallyn
| <serge.hallyn@...onical.com> wrote:
| >
| > The only place that *might* be a problem is if initramsfs does a devpts
| > mount, and later init blindly mounts tmpfs on /dev and mounts a new
| > devpts.  But it seems unlikely there would be any open pty's so it
| > shouldn't really matter.
| 
| Right. I think the opportunity for problems should be pretty small.
| 
| And it's not like the pty itself wouldn't continue to work - it's just
| that programs like /usr/bin/tty wouldn't be able to *find* it.
| 
| Although who knows - maybe there is some other subtle interaction.
| 
| > I could go ahead and test that, say, ubuntu and fedora systems boot fine
| > with this change.  But of course I can't be sure there is no userspace
| > out there that won't cope...
| 
| I think the only way is to try it out.
| 
| If you can test a few distros and at least validate that the approach
| isn't *totally* broken, I'll apply it. It's early days in the -rc
| series yet, and this does seem to be one of those things that we'd be
| better off trying to do early rather than delay.

Yes, hopefully the new distros can cope with 'newinstance' as the default
and ones that can't can live with CONFIG_DEVPTS_MULTIPLE_INSTANCES=n.

Sukadev

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