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Date:	Thu, 2 Feb 2012 01:05:56 +0000
From:	James Bottomley <jbottomley@...allels.com>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
CC:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"Hitoshi Mitake" <h.mitake@...il.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew.r.wilcox@...el.com>,
	Roland Dreier <roland@...estorage.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	James Bottomley <jbottomley@...allels.com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"hpa@...ux.intel.com" <hpa@...ux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] NVMe: Fix compilation on architecturs without
 readq/writeq

On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 15:35 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 4:23 AM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu> wrote:
> >
> > non-atomic sounds good to me too.
> 
> You both apparently missed the related discussion that some devices
> really do care about order, even if they don't care about atomicity.
> 
> So we'd actually have two versions of the header file, one
> little-endian, and one big-endian. Then the driver that knows it
> doesn't need the atomic 'readq()' that is always defined, but wants a
> low-bytes-first version would just do
> 
>    #include <linux/io64-little-endian.h>
> 
> (or "big-endian" if it wants to read/write high bits first). Most
> drivers probably don't care, but apparently NVMe does.

And this was about the point I concluded last time that it simply wasn't
worth it with the number of different possibilities for the primitives
and trying to come up with a sensible naming scheme ... it's just easier
to open code because then you get exactly what you meant.

Incidentally, the last time this came up was with mpt fusion: for a
write to a 64 bit register, it didn't care about order, but it did care
about interleaving as in if you write one half of a 64 bit register and
then write to another register, the 64 bit register effectively gets
written with zeros in the part you didn't write to, so we had to put a
spin lock in the open coded writeb/w/l/q() to make sure the card didn't
get interleaved writes.

James

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