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Message-ID: <20120203084600.GA12508@S2101-09.ap.freescale.net>
Date:	Fri, 3 Feb 2012 16:46:04 +0800
From:	Shawn Guo <shawn.guo@...aro.org>
To:	Stephen Warren <swarren@...dia.com>
Cc:	Dong Aisheng-B29396 <B29396@...escale.com>,
	"Linus Walleij (linus.walleij@...aro.org)" <linus.walleij@...aro.org>,
	"Sascha Hauer (s.hauer@...gutronix.de)" <s.hauer@...gutronix.de>,
	"rob.herring@...xeda.com" <rob.herring@...xeda.com>,
	"kernel@...gutronix.de" <kernel@...gutronix.de>,
	"cjb@...top.org" <cjb@...top.org>,
	"Simon Glass (sjg@...omium.org)" <sjg@...omium.org>,
	Dong Aisheng <dongas86@...il.com>,
	Thomas Abraham <thomas.abraham@...aro.org>,
	Tony Lindgren <tony@...mide.com>,
	"Grant Likely (grant.likely@...retlab.ca)" 
	<grant.likely@...retlab.ca>,
	"devicetree-discuss@...ts.ozlabs.org" 
	<devicetree-discuss@...ts.ozlabs.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: Pinmux bindings proposal V2

On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 10:36:54AM -0800, Stephen Warren wrote:
> Shawn Guo wrote at Wednesday, February 01, 2012 7:36 AM:
> ...
> > I had a talk with Dong about this binding, and we think that it should
> > work well for imx if we have a couple of small pieces added.
> > 
> > On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 02:22:20PM -0800, Stephen Warren wrote:
> > ...
> > >                 pmx_sdhci: pinconfig-sdhci {
> > >                         /*
> > >                          * The mux property is a list of muxable entities
> > >                          * and the mux function to select for it. The number
> > >                          * of cells in each entry is the pin controller's
> > >                          * #pinmux-cells property. The pin controller's
> > >                          * binding defines what the cells mean. The pinctrl
> > >                          * driver is responsible for mapping this data to
> > >                          * the (group, function) pair required to fill in
> > >                          * the pinctrl subsystem's pinmux mapping table.
> > >                          */
> > >                         mux =
> > >                                 <TEGRA_PMX_PG_DTA TEGRA_PMX_MUX_SDIO1>
> > >                                 <TEGRA_PMX_PG_DTD TEGRA_PMX_MUX_SDIO1>;
> > 
> > We need a property like 'mux-unit' whose value can be either 'pin' or
> > 'pingroup' to reflect something you mentioned as muxable entity.
> 
> I'm not sure I agree; see below.
> 
> > The reason behind this is the DT logic inside pinctrl core needs to
> > know how the pinmux_map should be constructed from device tree.
> 
> As a general statement, yes.
> 
> > In tegra case, the 'mux-unit' is 'pingroup', the core should construct
> > pinmux_map entry for each row/element of 'mux'.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > In imx case, the 'mux-unit' will be 'pin',
> 
> OK.
> 
> Just a note: Tegra30 also has per-pin muxability. Only Tegra20 muxes pins
> in groups. (although Tegra30 does some if its pin configuration in groups)
> 
> > and we would expect core construct only
> > one pinmux_map entry there, with all the pins listed in 'mux' composing
> > the group that pinmux_map needs.
> 
> This is where I disagree.
> 
So what I read is you disagree how pinctrl core uses property 'mux-unit'
not the property itself.

> If the pinmux_map should only contain a single entry, wouldn't the DT
> mux property only contain a single entry?
> 
So you are saying we should have a pinmux_map for each entry in the
mux property?  I disagree with that.  For imx usdhc example, we have
10 entries in mux property representing 10 pins and their mux values.
What we need is one pinmux_map rather than 10 for just one client
device.

> The reason being that if there's a single entry in the pinmux_map, the
> group name used in that entry must be a group that's supported directly
> by the pinctrl driver (that's just the way pinctrl works). As such, why
> not just write the device tree in terms of those groups?
> 
> The only way I can see this not being true is if your pinctrl driver is
> also parsing these mux properties, and dynamically creating the groups
> that it exposes based on the list of pins in the mux property.

Yes, that's exactly what we are trying to do for imx.

> However,
> that seems like the wrong approach;

Where does it go wrong exactly?

> If you're dynamically defining groups
> in DT, I'd expect separate explicit driver-specific properties/nodes to
> define those groups, such that the pinctrl core's processing of the mux
> property to be identical in all cases.
> 
It's not imx specific.  It's generally useful for any soc that has pin
as the muxable entity.  I think it should be the common part of this
binding and implemented in pinctrl core DT support. 

-- 
Regards,
Shawn
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