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Date:	Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:04:23 -0800
From:	Dave Hansen <>
To:	Christoph Lameter <>
	"Eric W. Biederman" <>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] fix move/migrate_pages() race on task struct

On 02/23/2012 11:40 AM, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Feb 2012, Dave Hansen wrote:
>>> Hmmm isnt the race still there between the determination of the task and
>>> the get_task_struct()? You would have to verify after the get_task_struct
>>> that this is really the task we wanted to avoid the race.
>> It's true that selecting a task by pid is inherently racy.  What that
>> code does is ensure that the task you've got current has 'pid', but not
>> ensure that 'pid' has never represented another task.  But, that's what
>> we do everywhere else in the kernel; there's not much better that we can do.
> We may at this point be getting a reference to a task struct from another
> process not only from the current process (where the above procedure is
> valid). You rightly pointed out that the slab rcu free mechanism allows a
> free and a reallocation within the RCU period.

I didn't _mean_ to point that out, but I think I realize what you're
talking about.  What we have before this patch is this:

        task = pid ? find_task_by_vpid(pid) : current;


So, the task at task->foo time is neither RCU-protected nor protected by
having a reference.  I changed it to:

        task = pid ? find_task_by_vpid(pid) : current;


That keeps task from being freed.  But, as you point out

> The effect is that the task
> struct could be pointing to a task with another pid that what we were
> looking for and therefore migrate_pages could subsequently be operating on
> a totally different process.
> The patch does not fix that race so far.

Agreed, this patch would not fix such an issue.

I think this also implies that stuff like get_task_pid() is broken,
along with virtually all of the users of find_task_by_vpid().  Eric, any
thoughts on this?

> I think you have to verify that the pid of the task matches after you took
> the refcount in order to be safe. If it does not match then abort.
>> Maybe "race" is the wrong word for what we've got here.  It's a lack of
>> a refcount being taken.
> Is that a real difference or are you just playing with words?

I think we're talking about two different things:
1. does RCU protect the pid->task lookup sufficiently?
2. Can the task simply go away in the move/migrate_pages() calls?

I think we're on the same page now.

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