linux-kernel - Re: Can we move device drivers into user-space?

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Message-ID: <CAG4AFWYxc8FP5yCoEekOnD6nNNqF0X8+VVgXF8zoksTd9RT_Ow@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 24 Feb 2012 23:28:46 -0500
From:	Jidong Xiao <jidong.xiao@...il.com>
To:	Richard Yao <ryao@...stonybrook.edu>
Cc:	Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Kernel development list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Can we move device drivers into user-space?

Thank you everyone! I opened this thread mainly because I was
wondering whether it makes sense to move device drivers into user
space. I had no clear idea, but I learnt a lot from the whole
discussion between everyone, and I think I am not the only one who
benefits from this discussion.

Regards
Jidong

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Richard Yao <ryao@...stonybrook.edu> wrote:
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> On 02/24/12 12:13, Greg KH wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:06:54PM -0500, Jidong Xiao wrote:
>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
> wrote:
>>>>> As to "Linux isn't a microkernel", even though the debate between
>>>>> Linux and microkernel have never stopped,
>>>>
>>>> Um, who is having such a debate? We aren't, so I don't think the debate
>>>> has ever started.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Here is the classic debate between Andrew S. Tanenbaum and Linus Torvalds:
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanenbaum%E2%80%93Torvalds_debate
>>
>> That was 20 years ago, to assume that anyone rational was still having
>> that debate today is insane.
> Jidong Xiao was correct in saying that there was a debate. It continues
> much like the Korean war does today.
>
> With that said, I suggest that Jidong Xiao switch to MINIX, GNU or his
> own OS based on one of the L4 kernels (SEL4 maybe?).
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