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Message-Id: <20120309163245.d6241d9b.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Date:	Fri, 9 Mar 2012 16:32:45 +0900
From:	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com>
To:	Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@...jp.nec.com>
Cc:	linux-mm@...ck.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@...hat.com>,
	Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@....nes.nec.co.jp>,
	Hillf Danton <dhillf@...il.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] memcg: avoid THP split in task migration

On Thu,  8 Mar 2012 23:25:28 -0500
Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@...jp.nec.com> wrote:

> Hi KAMEZAWA-san,
> 
> > On Fri,  2 Mar 2012 15:13:09 -0500
> > Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@...jp.nec.com> wrote:
> ...
> > > +
> > > +	page = pmd_page(pmd);
> > > +	VM_BUG_ON(!page || !PageHead(page));
> > > +	if (!move_anon() || page_mapcount(page) != 1)
> > > +		return 0;
> >
> > Could you add this ?
> > ==
> > static bool move_check_shared_map(struct page *page)
> > {
> >   /*
> >    * Handling of shared pages between processes is a big trouble in memcg.
> >    * Now, we never move shared-mapped pages between memcg at 'task' moving because
> >    * we have no hint which task the page is really belongs to. For example,
> >    * When a task does "fork()-> move to the child other group -> exec()", the charges
> >    * should be stay in the original cgroup.
> >    * So, check mapcount to determine we can move or not.
> >    */
> >    return page_mapcount(page) != 1;
> > }
> > ==
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> We check mapcount only for anonymous pages, so we had better also describe
> that viewpoint?  And this function returns whether the target page of moving
> charge is shared or not, so a name like is_mctgt_shared() looks better to me.
> Moreover, this function explains why we have current implementation, rather
> than why return value is mapcount != 1, so I put the comment above function
> declaration like this:
> 
>   /*
>    * Handling of shared pages between processes is a big trouble in memcg.
>    * Now, we never move shared anonymous pages between memcg at 'task'
>    * moving because we have no hint which task the page is really belongs to.
>    * For example, when a task does "fork() -> move to the child other group
>    * -> exec()", the charges should be stay in the original cgroup.
>    * So, check if a given page is shared or not to determine to move charge.
>    */
>   static bool is_mctgt_shared(struct page *page)
>   {
>      return page_mapcount(page) != 1;
>   }
> 
> As for the difference between anon page and filemapped page, I have no idea
> about current charge moving policy. Is this explained anywhere? (sorry to
> question before researching by myself ...)
> 
> 

Now, I think it's okay to move mapcount check. I posted a patch for reference. 
Please check it.
https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/3/9/40

> > We may be able to support madvise(MOVE_MEMCG) or fadvise(MOVE_MEMCG), if necessary.
> 
> Is this mean moving charge policy can depend on users?
> I feel that's strange because I don't think resouce management should be
> under users' control.
> 
You're right. I 

Hm. I remember some guy suggested 'how about passing prefer memcg as mount option'
or some. Anyway, shared page handling is trouble since memory cgroup was born.

Thanks,
-Kame

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