linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] firmware loader: don't cancel _nowait requests when helper is not yet available

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Message-ID: <CAPXgP13D9haan4SdxhxzzKUaw=FV1JgP0weKmezK8tJBip4QXA@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Wed, 14 Mar 2012 02:55:31 +0100
From:	Kay Sievers <kay@...y.org>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Christian Lamparter <chunkeey@...glemail.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	"Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	Linux PM mailing list <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] firmware loader: don't cancel _nowait requests when
 helper is not yet available

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 02:51, Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Kay Sievers <kay@...y.org> wrote:
>>
>> usermodehelper_is_disabled() is a flag from kmod which is all about
>> exec(). That flag should not be used to decide if a firmware request
>> can be issued by a driver and queued up or not.
>
> Sorry, you're wrong. And Rafael *told* you why you are wrong, and you
> ignored him and talked about "exec" some more.
>
> So go back and read Rafael's email. The point is, you are focusing too
> much on the name (which Rafael talked about and said is misleading).
>
> But it's not the name that matters, it's the concept. Loading firmware
> during the suspend process is broken (read Rafael's email about
> suggested renaming).
>
> AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH EXEC. It doesn't matter *how* you load
> it. You could load it by reading a file directly from disk, AND IT
> WOULD STILL BE WRONG FOR THE EXACT SAME DAMN REASON.
>
> I outlined that reason too. The filesystem may not be up and running yet.
>
> Get it?
>
> So please, read the emails. People actually *agree* that the name may
> be a bit misleading, but instead of harping on bogus issues, just read
> the emails from people like Rafael about it.
>
> So STOP with this idiocy already. It has nothing to do with exec.
> Seriously. Get that through your head already.

I do NOT talk about exec, I talk about a REQUEST which can be QUEUED
just fine, but which the kernel refuses to QUEUE, even when it will
not harm anything. That check and warning is wrong.

Kay
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