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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1203161128120.13465@axis700.grange>
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 12:09:55 +0100 (CET)
From: Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@....de>
To: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@...aro.org>
cc: Vinod Koul <vinod.koul@...el.com>,
Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@....linux.org.uk>,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
Jassi Brar <jassisinghbrar@...il.com>,
Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@...il.com>,
Paul Mundt <lethal@...ux-sh.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC] dmaengine: add a slave parameter to __dma_request_channel()
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012, Linus Walleij wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Guennadi Liakhovetski
> <g.liakhovetski@....de> wrote:
>
> > Ok, let me try to summarise, what this would mean for sh-mobile:
> >
> > 1. this proposal introduces a new special case: with or without a mapping,
> > that will have to be handled in affected client and DMA controller
> > drivers. E.g., on sh-mobile some devices might on some systems use
> > channels from "general purpose" DMA controllers (no mapping), on other
> > systems it will be a dedicated controller (fixed mapping).
> >
> > 2. this will break, if we get more than 1 "general purpose" type with
> > different supported client sets. So, we develop a new API with a
> > pre-programmed limitation.
>
> I fail to see why this would not be solved by a one-to-many mapping?
>
> Flag for each device which channels it may use in a mapping
> table in platform data or device tree, I don't see the problem.
>
> You don't even have to specify that on a per-channel basis if
> you can come up with something more clever in the mapping
> table, such as "this device can use any channel on this DMAC,
> and channels 1-7 on that DMAC" - no problem?
Sure, everything is possible. So, would something like this make you
happy:
struct dma_channel_range {
const char *dma_device;
int channel_start;
int channel_end;
};
struct dma_map {
const char *name;
const char *client;
const struct dma_channel_range *chan_range;
int chan_range_num;
};
You really want to do this?...
And the least important question: who and when will implement the core
support for this?
> > 3. this will mean a substantial driver and platform code modification.
> > Nothing super-complex, but still some.
>
> Big deal. Refactoring is fun... ;-)
>
> > 4. we'll need a 3-stage channel allocation / configuration: request,
> > filter, config.
>
> In my world: channel request with *NO* filter function.
How??? Again:
1. the client issues a dma_request_channel() with _just_ a capability mask
and a filter and its argument as parameters - _nothing_ about channel
restrictions.
2. you propose to eliminate a filter - the core has no way to know, which
channel to pick up...
3. the wrapper, proposed by Russell, now calls dmaengine_slave_config(),
which fails, because that's a wrong channel (hope I get this right this
time - configuration has nothing to do with selection:-))
4. that's it, if you start again - the dmaengine core will enumerate the
same channels again and propose the same unsuitable channel to you -
there's no way to continue to the next channel / device.
What am I missing? How is the mapping going to be used, if you eliminate
the filter function?
> Filter functions are part of the problem. So we refactor these
> away as part of this change. That's the whole point...
>
> The core gathers information from the platform and the
> DMAC driver(s) to build up the constraints necessary to
> hand out workling channels to each device that request
> one.
>
> And Russell IIRC already suggested a request-and-config
> channel inline for the simple cases, and if you still need to
> explicitly runtime-reconfigure then that's for a good
> reason.
>
> > Whereas with my configuration-parameter proposal it's just
> > one stage: allocate-and-configure.
>
> For one specific hardware, yes. For DMAengine at large
> and the majority of the drivers, no.
Sorry, why? I don't think I saw an answer to it apart from - maintenance
burden... You can use that parameter to actually pass information to be
used by the core to scan your mapping tables, I really don't see how you
want to use those tables with the existing dmaengine channel-allocation
API.
Thanks
Guennadi
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Guennadi Liakhovetski, Ph.D.
Freelance Open-Source Software Developer
http://www.open-technology.de/
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