lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:	Wed, 28 Mar 2012 23:24:07 +0200 (CEST)
From:	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
To:	Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
cc:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@...onical.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Darren Hart <dvhart@...ux.intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
	kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com, spender@...ecurity.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] futex: do not leak robust list to unprivileged process

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012, Kees Cook wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de> wrote:
> > On Tue, 20 Mar 2012, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >> * Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de> wrote:
> >> > > I really wonder why we have this syscall at all.
> >> >
> >> > The documentation I found yesterday while looking at this was:
> >> > http://linux.die.net/man/2/get_robust_list
> >> >
> >> > Which says "The system call is only available for debugging
> >> > purposes and is not needed for normal operations. Both system
> >> > calls are not available to application programs as functions;
> >> > they can be called using the syscall(3) function."
> >> >
> >> > Dropping the syscall entirely would certainly make it secure.
> >> > ;)
> >>
> >> The thinking was API completeness. In general it's possible for
> >> a sufficiently privileged task to figure out all the state of a
> >> task. We can query timers, fds - the robust list is such a
> >> resource as well. The information leakage was obviously not
> >> intended.
> >
> > So I think it's safe to take Kees' patch as is. On top of that we
> > should add a WARN_ONCE when the syscall is invoked and schedule the
> > sucker for removal.
> 
> Can someone claim the first patch? It looks like not everyone agrees
> about removal, but I'd like to see at least the first one get in. :)

It's on my list for tomorrow.
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ