linux-kernel - Re: RFC: deprecating/removing the legacy mode of devpts

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Message-ID: <20120408182039.5756b05d@pyramind.ukuu.org.uk>
Date:	Sun, 8 Apr 2012 18:20:39 +0100
From:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
Cc:	"Ted Ts'o" <tytso@....edu>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@...nvz.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@...y.org>,
	Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: RFC: deprecating/removing the legacy mode of devpts

> 2 would be easy if it wasn't for udev, which makes it very hard.  It is
> not reasonable for udev to support both modes, so the *only* mode that
> is reasonable for it to support is the new mode.  However, it is
> increasingly obvious that if we don't force it, this will never happen.

If enough people care about it then udev will get fixed. Using the kernel
as a large hammer to try and force one worldview onto people who couldn't
give a flying.. isn't the right answer here.

Get the distros to switch mode by asking them and/or by sending them
changes for new releases.

Alan
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