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Date:	Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:07:59 -0700
From:	Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
To:	Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@...il.com>
Cc:	Adrian Chadd <adrian@...ebsd.org>, Sergio Correia <lists@...e.net>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, stable@...r.kernel.org,
	torvalds@...ux-foundation.org, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
	alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	linux-wireless Mailing List <linux-wireless@...r.kernel.org>,
	Sujith Manoharan <c_manoha@....qualcomm.com>,
	"ath9k-devel@...ts.ath9k.org" <ath9k-devel@...ema.h4ckr.net>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@...driver.com>
Subject: Re: [ 00/78] 3.3.2-stable review

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 09:43:33PM +0300, Felipe Contreras wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian@...ebsd.org> wrote:
> > On 12 April 2012 09:49, Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@...il.com> wrote:
> >
> >>>
> >>> A revert is the same as a patch.  It needs to be in Linus's tree before
> >>> I can add it to the stable releases.
> >>
> >> Right, because otherwise people's systems would actually work.
> >>
> >> But hey, as I said, following rules is more important, regardless of
> >> what the rules are, and why they are there. The rules that actually
> >> triggered this issue in v3.3.1, as this is not in v3.3.
> >>
> >> You could just accept that the patch should have never landed in
> >> v3.3.1 in the first place, but it's much easier to arbitrarily keep
> >> stacking patches without thinking too much about them.
> >
> > Greg is doing the right thing here. We face the same deal in FreeBSD -
> > people want fixes to go into a release branch first, but if you do
> > that you break the development flow - which is "stuff goes into -HEAD
> > and is then backported to the release branches."
> >
> > If you don't do this, you risk having people do (more, all)
> > development and testing on a release branch and never test -HEAD (or
> > "upstream linux" here). Once you open that particular flood gate, it's
> > hard to close.
> 
> But this is exactly the opposite; the patch that broke things is in
> the 'release branch' (3.3.1); it's not in upstream (3.3). Sure, it's
> also on a later upstream, which is also broken.

What is the git commit id of the patch in 3.3.1 that caused this to
break?  This is the first time I have heard that 3.3 worked and 3.3.1
did not work.  Someone needs to tell me these things...

greg k-h
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