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Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1204122243080.1835@aurora.sdinet.de>
Date:	Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:52:08 +0200 (CEST)
From:	Sven-Haegar Koch <haegar@...net.de>
To:	Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
cc:	Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@...il.com>,
	Adrian Chadd <adrian@...ebsd.org>,
	Sergio Correia <lists@...e.net>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	stable@...r.kernel.org, torvalds@...ux-foundation.org,
	akpm@...ux-foundation.org, alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	linux-wireless Mailing List <linux-wireless@...r.kernel.org>,
	Sujith Manoharan <c_manoha@....qualcomm.com>,
	"ath9k-devel@...ts.ath9k.org" <ath9k-devel@...ema.h4ckr.net>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@...driver.com>
Subject: Re: [ 00/78] 3.3.2-stable review

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012, Greg KH wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 09:43:33PM +0300, Felipe Contreras wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian@...ebsd.org> wrote:
> > > On 12 April 2012 09:49, Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@...il.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >>>
> > >>> A revert is the same as a patch.  It needs to be in Linus's tree before
> > >>> I can add it to the stable releases.
> > >>
> > >> Right, because otherwise people's systems would actually work.
> > >>
> > >> But hey, as I said, following rules is more important, regardless of
> > >> what the rules are, and why they are there. The rules that actually
> > >> triggered this issue in v3.3.1, as this is not in v3.3.
> > >>
> > >> You could just accept that the patch should have never landed in
> > >> v3.3.1 in the first place, but it's much easier to arbitrarily keep
> > >> stacking patches without thinking too much about them.
> > >
> > > Greg is doing the right thing here. We face the same deal in FreeBSD -
> > > people want fixes to go into a release branch first, but if you do
> > > that you break the development flow - which is "stuff goes into -HEAD
> > > and is then backported to the release branches."
> > >
> > > If you don't do this, you risk having people do (more, all)
> > > development and testing on a release branch and never test -HEAD (or
> > > "upstream linux" here). Once you open that particular flood gate, it's
> > > hard to close.
> > 
> > But this is exactly the opposite; the patch that broke things is in
> > the 'release branch' (3.3.1); it's not in upstream (3.3). Sure, it's
> > also on a later upstream, which is also broken.
> 
> What is the git commit id of the patch in 3.3.1 that caused this to
> break?  This is the first time I have heard that 3.3 worked and 3.3.1
> did not work.  Someone needs to tell me these things...

Should be

db6a6a78d8602964c9dfb1d8ce18daefd92da0a7 in stable/linux-3.3.y
c1afdaff90538ef085b756454f12b29575411214 in linux/master

c'ya
sven-haegar

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