linux-kernel - Re: [ 00/78] 3.3.2-stable review

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Message-ID: <20120416053220.GA14338@gmail.com>
Date:	Mon, 16 Apr 2012 07:32:20 +0200
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
To:	Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@...il.com>
Cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Sergio Correia <lists@...e.net>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	stable@...r.kernel.org, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
	alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	linux-wireless Mailing List <linux-wireless@...r.kernel.org>,
	Sujith Manoharan <c_manoha@....qualcomm.com>,
	"ath9k-devel@...ts.ath9k.org" <ath9k-devel@...ema.h4ckr.net>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@...driver.com>
Subject: Re: [ 00/78] 3.3.2-stable review


* Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@...il.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Linus Torvalds
> <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Felipe Contreras
> > <felipe.contreras@...il.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> This is not a reason, this is just stating what happens without
> >> explaining *why*.
> >>
> >> Q: What changes when a tag is made?
> >> A: A tag is made
> 
> [...]
> 
> > The only thing that matters is "it's been made available to others".
> 
> Exactly! Now *this* is a reason. [...]

Erm, many people referred to that in this discussion explicitly 
and implicitly - beyond its well-known technical meaning it's 
also the English meaning of the word 'release':

   http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/releasing

  : [...] to make available to the public [...]

So stop pretending that this is somehow the mistake of *others* 
explaining it to you wrong ...

Just admit it already that you were trivially and dead wrong all 
along, and that you were pretty difficult and obnoxious about 
handling a discussion that went against you.

Being wrong is normal and it happens all the time - and a big 
part of the picture is how you handle such situations, to not 
try to wriggle out of the responsibility of being wrong and to 
not waste other people's time with such self-gratifying mental 
obfuscation.

Such as:

> I'm not going to argue the semantics of what is a revert, 
> [...]

You should not argue about the semantics about a revert not 
because somehow it's not important (it is), but because you've 
been wrong about this issue too. You should learn and improve.

Thanks,

	Ingo
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