linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v4 1/4] powerpc/85xx: add HOTPLUG

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Date:	Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:25:00 -0500
From:	Scott Wood <scottwood@...escale.com>
To:	Li Yang-R58472 <r58472@...escale.com>
CC:	Wood Scott-B07421 <B07421@...escale.com>,
	Zhao Chenhui-B35336 <B35336@...escale.com>,
	"linuxppc-dev@...ts.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@...ts.ozlabs.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/4] powerpc/85xx: add HOTPLUG_CPU support

On 04/17/2012 04:51 AM, Li Yang-R58472 wrote:
>>>  struct smp_ops_t smp_85xx_ops = {
>>>  	.kick_cpu = smp_85xx_kick_cpu,
>>> -#ifdef CONFIG_KEXEC
>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU
>>> +	.cpu_disable	= generic_cpu_disable,
>>> +	.cpu_die	= generic_cpu_die,
>>> +#endif
>>>  	.give_timebase	= smp_generic_give_timebase,
>>>  	.take_timebase	= smp_generic_take_timebase,
>>> -#endif
>>>  };
>>
>> We need to stop using smp_generic_give/take_timebase, not expand its use.
>> This stuff breaks under hypervisors where timebase can't be written.  It
>> wasn't too bad before since we generally didn't enable CONFIG_KEXEC, but
>> we're more likely to want CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU.
> 
> I understand that the guest OS shouldn't change the real timebase.  

Cannot change it, and we've seen the tbsync code loop forever when it
tries (since the changes aren't taking effect).

> But no matter what timebase syncing method we are using, the timebase need to be changed anyway for certain features.

That's why I said to do it the way U-Boot does it.

> I think the better way should be trapping timebase modification in the hypervisor.

It does trap.  Currently we treat it as a no-op.  The only reasonable
alternative is to give the guest an exception.  It is simply not allowed
for a guest to modify the timebase -- we are not going to break the
host's timebase sync.  See the virtualized implementation note in
section 9.2.1 of book III-E of Power ISA 2.06B: "In virtualized
implementations, TBU and TBL are read-only."

>> Do the timebase sync the way U-Boot does -- if you find the appropriate
>> guts node in the device tree.
> 
> That involves stopping timebase for a short time on all cores including the cores that are still online.  Won't this be a potential issue?

I don't think it's a big deal in the contexts where you'd be doing
this -- at least not worse than the current situation.  Just make sure
that you don't reset the timebase to zero or otherwise make a core see
the timebase go backward.

-Scott

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