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Message-ID: <1335488964.14538.159.camel@ymzhang.sh.intel.com>
Date:	Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:09:24 +0800
From:	Yanmin Zhang <yanmin_zhang@...ux.intel.com>
To:	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
Cc:	ShuoX Liu <shuox.liu@...el.com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: percpu: Add PCPU_FC_FIXED to pcpu_fc for setting
 fixed pcpu_atom_size.

On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 15:49 -0700, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:01:12AM +0800, Yanmin Zhang wrote:
> > [    0.000000] SMP: Allowing 2 CPUs, 0 hotplug CPUs
> > [    0.000000] nr_irqs_gsi: 85
> > [    0.000000] Allocating PCI resources starting at 40000000 (gap: 40000000:bec00000)
> > [    0.000000] setup_percpu: NR_CPUS:2 nr_cpumask_bits:2 nr_cpu_ids:2 nr_node_ids:1
> > [    0.000000] PERCPU: Embedded 12 pages/cpu @f6400000 s25280 r0 d23872 u2097152
> > [    0.000000] pcpu-alloc: s25280 r0 d23872 u2097152 alloc=1*4194304
> > [    0.000000] pcpu-alloc: [0] 0 1
> 
> Heh, I was getting confused, forget the distance thing, so it's single
> group w/ 4MiB allocation size.
> 
> > PERCPU: allocation failed, size=252 align=4, failed to allocate new chunk
> 
> Which later fails percpu allocation due to vmalloc space exhaustion.
> How long does that take to happen?
It depends. Sometimes it fails in 400 seconds after booting. We run MTBF and other
stress testing. Sometimes even with other non-stress testing, pecpu allocation
fails. Most drivers or upper layers expect the percpu allocation should succeed. If
not, although mostly there is no OOPS in kernel, upper applications wouldn't work.

> 
> > vmallocinfo is attached. From the vmallocinfo, we could find the VM space
> > is fragmented. We would write another patch to clean it up.
> 
> Whee... ah well, 128M isn't that big after all.
Indeed, so we need tune the memory utilization carefully on i386.
We did work out other patches at other places/drivers to fix other OOM issues.

> 
> > > > If using PERCPU_FC_PAGE, system can't go to deep sleep states.
> > > 
> > > Why?
> >
> > Medfield has 2 cpu threads. Only when all the 2 threads enter deep C states,
> > for example, C6, the core would enter C6. If booting kernel with percpu_alloc=page,
> > cpu core often aborts the C6 entering. We don't know why. C6 is aborted under
> > many conditions. One is when there is pending interrupt. I suspect with page size
> > alloc, it might trigger more cache miss. Just before calls mwait to enter
> > C6, we record some statistics data and that might trigger the cache miss
> > to abort the C6. It's just a _GUESS_.
> > 
> > We tried atom_size with 32k, 128k, 256k. There is no power regression.
> 
> So, the difference between EMBED and PAGE is how the first chunk which
> contains all the static percpu variables and some dynamic area for
> optimization is allocated.  For EMBED, it's just kmallocd which means
> that it piggy backs on the default kernel linear mapping thus avoiding
> adding any extra TLB pressure.  For PAGE, all those percpu areas end
> up getting re-mapped in vmalloc area using 4k pages, so if TLB
> pressure can affect entering C6, that could be it.
Thanks for the explanation.

> 
> > We can't fix FC_PAGE power regression. If we do so, we need contact many
> > hardware architects. Current kernel supports FC_PAGE and PMD_SIZE, why
> > not to allow admin to choose other values?
> 
> If this is something which is met in the field commonly, we need to
> fix the default behavior rather than introducing some arcane boot
> param.
We just add a new value input method instead of introducing new parameter.

>   IIRC, the reasons PMD_SIZE is used for atom_size are so that
> percpu areas are aligned to PSE mapping, maybe later we can make use
> of PSE mapping in vmalloc area too, and it didn't seem to hurt
> anything.
Well, vmalloc area might use different prot to map physical pages.
So sharing one PMD huge page by many vmalloc areas might be not good.

> 
> If the large unit size is becoming a problem on i386, we can just use
> PAGE_SIZE as atom_size.  Can you please verify that atom_size of 4k w/
> EMBED also resolves the power issue?
We are enable Android ICS which is based on kernel 3.0.8. It seems there is
no much change between 3.0.8 and the latest kernel.
With 3.0.8, although we could set percpualloc=embed, atom_size would becomes
PMD_SIZE.
With our patch, we could do the experiment as we could configure percpu_alloc=4K
easily. We would let you know the testing result of atom_size=4K && first_chunk_embedded.

Yanmin


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