linux-kernel - Re: [v3.4-rc5]: drm references experimental

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Message-ID: <1335995781.30754.27.camel@x61.thuisdomein>
Date:	Wed, 02 May 2012 23:56:21 +0200
From:	Paul Bolle <pebolle@...cali.nl>
To:	Jörg Otte <jrg.otte@...glemail.com>
Cc:	Dave Airlie <airlied@...hat.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [v3.4-rc5]: drm references experimental

On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 16:31 +0200, Jörg Otte wrote:
> there is a dependency between drm and experimental driver. If I
> don't enable EXPERIMENTAL I see the following during configuration:
> 
> warning: (DRM) selects DMA_SHARED_BUFFER which has unmet direct
> dependencies (EXPERIMENTAL)
> 
> I think non-experimental code shouldn't depend on experimental code.

This reminds me of a brief discussion on the merits of EXPERIMENTAL
starting at https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/1/18/385 . My impression from
that discussion was that EXPERIMENTAL currently is set in most
configurations (eg, even Debian stable has EXPERIMENTAL set). This means
that people generally won't notice that an option that itself doesn't
depend (indirectly) on EXPERIMENTAL selects an option that does depend
directly on EXPERIMENTAL. So, yes, one wouldn't expect non-EXPERIMENTAL
code to use EXPERIMENTAL code but, apparently, in practice it does.

I also noticed that there's not a single instance of CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL
in any code-file or in any Makefile. EXPERIMENTAL is only relevant in,
well, Kconfig space. That should make it somewhat less likely that there
are surprising changes to the code than in other cases of options
selecting options with unmet direct dependencies.

Paul Bolle

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