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Date:	Thu, 10 May 2012 11:41:36 +0100
From:	Ben Dooks <ben-linux@...ff.org>
To:	Mark Brown <broonie@...nsource.wolfsonmicro.com>
Cc:	Wolfgang Denk <wd@...x.de>, linux-embedded@...r.kernel.org,
	Samuel Ortiz <sameo@...ux.intel.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@...dotorg.org>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@...aro.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Igor Grinberg <grinberg@...pulab.co.il>,
	Olof Johansson <olof@...om.net>,
	Lee Jones <lee.jones@...aro.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...b.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org
Subject: Re: Handling of modular boards

On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 11:09:45PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 10:33:57PM +0200, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> 
> > On the other hand, some of the issues we're trying to solve here
> > for the kernel are also present in the boot loader, so this needs to
> > do this anyway - whether by inserting new or modifying (enabling or
> > disabling) existing properties in the DT is not really relevant here.
> 
> FWIW if the bootloader can usefully handle this stuff I think that's a
> good approach but there is substantial variation in quality of
> implementation between bootloaders and even when the bootloader is a
> good one it's not always practical to update it or the data it relies
> on.

I agree, the list of devices should be in the device-tree handed to
whatever OS is being booted. It isn't a Linux specific problem that
we're looking at here.

Any operating system, pre-OS test suite, etc. is going going to need
this information, and in my view the bootloader should be doing whatever
is needed to create a device-tree to passed through to the next loaded
system.

Also, having the information available to $bootloader means the user
can verify the presence of the peripherals before the OS is loaded.

-- 
Ben Dooks, ben@...ff.org, http://www.fluff.org/ben/

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