linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH 3/3] block: add queue idle timer

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Message-ID: <1337182820.4047.18.camel@hp6530s>
Date:	Wed, 16 May 2012 23:40:20 +0800
From:	Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@...el.com>
To:	Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>
Cc:	Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@...hat.com>,
	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-pm@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/3] block: add queue idle timer

On Wed, 2012-05-16 at 15:53 +0200, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 05/16/2012 03:04 PM, Jeff Moyer wrote:
> > Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@...el.com> writes:
> > 
> >> On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 15:19 -0400, Jeff Moyer wrote:
> >>> Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@...el.com> writes:
> >>>
> >>>> Add an idle timer that is set to some suitable timeout and would be
> >>>> added when the queue first goes empty. If nothing has happened during
> >>>> the timeout interval, then the queue is suspended.
> >>>>
> >>>> Queueing a new request could check the state and resume queue if it is
> >>>> supended.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> [snip]
> >>>
> >>>> @@ -1129,6 +1141,13 @@ void __blk_put_request(struct request_queue *q, struct request *req)
> >>>>  	if (unlikely(--req->ref_count))
> >>>>  		return;
> >>>>  
> >>>> +	/* PM request is not accounted */
> >>>> +	if (!(req->cmd_flags & REQ_PM)) {
> >>>> +		if (!(--q->nr_pending))
> >>>> +			/* Hard code to 20secs, will move to sysfs */
> >>>> +			mod_timer(&q->idle, jiffies + 20*HZ);
> >>>> +	}
> >>>> +
> >>>
> >>> I'm pretty sure Jens wanted to avoid doing a mod_timer, here, given that
> >>> the queue can transition between empty and non-empty fairly rapidly for
> >>> dependent I/O.
> >>
> >> I'll remove this idle timer and use runtime pm core's timer.
> > 
> > This issues isn't which timer to use, it's when to modify it.  Since the
> > queue can cycle between empty and non-empty very quickly, you should try
> > to avoid calling mod_timer for every non-empty to empty transition.
> > Jens had described one way to do this in the thread you referenced in
> > your 0/3 email.
> 
> That's exactly right, thanks Jeff.
> 
> Lin, you should have more slack timer handling. Look at the blk-timeout
> handling of request timeouts for inspiration, and/or the thread that
> Jeff also references. Doing a timer add/del for each request put is a no
> go.

You mentioned how to detect queue idle in the referenced thread:
	
===
So we could probably add an idle timer that is set to some suitable
timeout for this and would be added when the queue first goes empty. If
new requests come in, just let it simmer and defer checking the state to
when it actually fires.
===

What do you mean of "the queue first goes empty"?

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