lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <20120523161514.GD2402@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date:	Wed, 23 May 2012 09:15:14 -0700
From:	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>
Cc:	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linaro-sched-sig@...ts.linaro.org,
	Alessio Igor Bogani <abogani@...nel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@...hat.com>,
	Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@...era.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux.com>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@...aro.org>,
	Geoff Levand <geoff@...radead.org>,
	Gilad Ben Yossef <gilad@...yossef.com>,
	Hakan Akkan <hakanakkan@...il.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>, Kevin Hilman <khilman@...com>,
	Max Krasnyansky <maxk@...lcomm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@...tta.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	Sven-Thorsten Dietrich <thebigcorporation@...il.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 17/41] rcu: Restart tick if we enqueue a callback in a
 nohz/cpuset CPU

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 04:03:36PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:30:47AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:27:14AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 01:54:51AM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > > > If we enqueue an rcu callback, we need the CPU tick to stay
> > > > alive until we take care of those by completing the appropriate
> > > > grace period.
> > > > 
> > > > Thus, when we call_rcu(), send a self IPI that checks rcu_needs_cpu()
> > > > so that we restore a periodic tick behaviour that can take care of
> > > > everything.
> > > 
> > > Ouch, I hadn't considered RCU callbacks being posted from within an
> > > extended quiescent state.  I guess I need to make __call_rcu() either
> > > complain about this or handle it correctly...  It would -usually- be
> > > harmless, but there is getting to be quite a bit of active machinery
> > > in the various idle loops, so just assuming that it cannot happen is
> > > probably getting to be an obsolete assumption.
> > 
> > Adaptive ticks does restart the tick upon entering the kernel, correct?
> 
> No, it keeps the tick down. The tick is restarted only if it's needed:
> when more than one task are on the runqueue, a posix cpu timer is running,
> a CPU needs the current one to report a quiescent state, etc...

Ah, I didn't realize that you didn't restart the tick upon entry to the
kernel.  So this is why you need the IPI -- because there is no tick, if
the system call runs for a long time, RCU is not guaranteed to make any
progress on that CPU.

In the common case, this will not be a problem because system calls
normally spend a short amount of time in the kernel, so normally RCU's
dyntick-idle detection will handle this case.  The exception to this
rule is when there is a long CPU-bound code path in the kernel, where
"long" means many milliseconds.  In this exception case, this CPU needs
to be interrupted or whatever is needed to force the CPU to progress
through RCU.

							Thanx, Paul

> > If so, wouldn't the return to userspace cause adaptive tick to automatically
> > handle a callback posted from within the kernel?
> > 
> > (And yes, I still need to handle the possibility of callbacks being posted
> > from the idle loop, but that is a different extended quiescent state.)
> > 
> > 							Thanx, Paul
> > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>
> > > > Cc: Alessio Igor Bogani <abogani@...nel.org>
> > > > Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
> > > > Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@...hat.com>
> > > > Cc: Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@...era.com>
> > > > Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux.com>
> > > > Cc: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@...aro.org>
> > > > Cc: Geoff Levand <geoff@...radead.org>
> > > > Cc: Gilad Ben Yossef <gilad@...yossef.com>
> > > > Cc: Hakan Akkan <hakanakkan@...il.com>
> > > > Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
> > > > Cc: Kevin Hilman <khilman@...com>
> > > > Cc: Max Krasnyansky <maxk@...lcomm.com>
> > > > Cc: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > > > Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
> > > > Cc: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@...tta.com>
> > > > Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
> > > > Cc: Sven-Thorsten Dietrich <thebigcorporation@...il.com>
> > > > Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
> > > > ---
> > > >  kernel/rcutree.c |    7 +++++++
> > > >  1 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/kernel/rcutree.c b/kernel/rcutree.c
> > > > index 3fffc26..b8d300c 100644
> > > > --- a/kernel/rcutree.c
> > > > +++ b/kernel/rcutree.c
> > > > @@ -1749,6 +1749,13 @@ __call_rcu(struct rcu_head *head, void (*func)(struct rcu_head *rcu),
> > > >  	else
> > > >  		trace_rcu_callback(rsp->name, head, rdp->qlen);
> > > > 
> > > > +	/* Restart the timer if needed to handle the callbacks */
> > > > +	if (cpuset_adaptive_nohz()) {
> > > > +		/* Make updates on nxtlist visible to self IPI */
> > > > +		barrier();
> > > > +		smp_cpuset_update_nohz(smp_processor_id());
> > > > +	}
> > > > +
> > > >  	/* If interrupts were disabled, don't dive into RCU core. */
> > > >  	if (irqs_disabled_flags(flags)) {
> > > >  		local_irq_restore(flags);
> > > > -- 
> > > > 1.7.5.4
> > > > 
> > 
> --
> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
> the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
> More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
> Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/
> 

--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ