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Message-ID: <4FC5D228.2070100@parallels.com>
Date:	Wed, 30 May 2012 11:54:16 +0400
From:	Glauber Costa <glommer@...allels.com>
To:	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
CC:	Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux.com>, <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	<cgroups@...r.kernel.org>, <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	<kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com>, Li Zefan <lizefan@...wei.com>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@...gle.com>,
	Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@...gle.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.cz>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>, <devel@...nvz.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@...helsinki.fi>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 13/28] slub: create duplicate cache

On 05/30/2012 05:29 AM, Tejun Heo wrote:
> The two goals for cgroup controllers that I think are important are
> proper (no, not crazy perfect but good enough) isolation and an
> implementation which doesn't impact !cg path in an intrusive manner -
> if someone who doesn't care about cgroup but knows and wants to work
> on the subsystem should be able to mostly ignore cgroup support.  If
> that means overhead for cgroup users, so be it.

Well, my code in the slab is totally wrapped in static branches. They 
only come active when the first group is *limited* (not even created: 
you can have a thousand memcg, if none of them are kmem limited, nothing 
will happen).

After that, the cost paid is to find out at which cgroup the process is 
at. I believe that if we had a faster way for this (like for instance: 
if we had a single hierarchy, the scheduler could put this in a percpu 
variable after context switch - or any other method), then the cost of 
it could be really low, even when this is enabled.

> Without looking at the actual code, my rainbow-farting unicorn here
> would be having a common slXb interface layer which handles
> interfacing with memory allocator users and cgroup and let slXb
> implement the same backend interface which doesn't care / know about
> cgroup at all (other than using the correct allocation context, that
> is).  Glauber, would something like that be possible?

It is a matter of degree. There *is* a lot of stuff in common code, and 
I tried to do it as much as I could. Christoph gave me a nice idea about 
hinting to the page allocator that this page is a slab page before the 
allocation, and then we could account from the page allocator directly - 
without touching the cache code at all. This could be done, but some 
stuff would still be there, basically because of differences in how the 
allocator behaves. I think long term Christoph's effort to produce 
common code among them will help a lot, if they stabilize their behavior 
in certain areas.

I will rework this series to try work more towards this goal, but at 
least for now I'll keep duplicating the caches. I still don't believe 
that a loose accounting to the extent Christoph proposed will achieve 
what we need this to achieve.

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