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Message-ID: <20120601092832.GA20346@redhat.com>
Date:	Fri, 1 Jun 2012 12:28:32 +0300
From:	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>
To:	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
Cc:	Asias He <asias@...hat.com>, Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>,
	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] block: Fix lock unbalance caused by lock disconnect

On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 07:20:55PM +0900, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, Asias.
> 
> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 10:15:18AM +0800, Asias He wrote:
> > >I don't think the patch description is correct.  The lock switcihng is
> > >inherently broken and the patch doesn't really fix the problem
> > >although it *might* make the problem less likely.  Trying to switch
> > >locks while there are other accessors of the lock is simply broken, it
> > >can never work without outer synchronization.
> > 
> > Since the lock switching is broken, is it a good idea to force all
> > the drivers to use the block layer provided lock? i.e. Change the
> > API from
> > blk_init_queue(rfn, driver_lock) to blk_init_queue(rfn). Any reason
> > not to use the block layer provided one.
> 
> I think hch tried to do that a while ago.  Dunno what happened to the
> patches.  IIRC, the whole external lock thing was about sharing a
> single lock across different request_queues.  Not sure whether it's
> actually beneficial enough or just a crazy broken optimization.

Looks like almost all drivers get it wrong.  And it's likely
something like a floppy driver doesn't need an optimization:
drivers/block/floppy.c:	disks[dr]->queue = blk_init_queue(do_fd_request, &floppy_lock);

The obvious use of this API is wrong. So how about introducing
a correct one, deprecating the broken one so we can start
slowly converting users?

Then if someone sees a real reason for the internal lock,
he will complain.




> > >Your patch might make
> > >the problem somewhat less likely simply because queue draining makes a
> > >lot of request_queue users go away.
> > 
> > Who will use the request_queue after blk_cleanup_queue()?
> 
> Anyone who still holds a ref might try to issue a new request on a
> dead queue.  ie. blkdev with filesystem mounted goes away and the FS
> issues a new read request after blk_cleanup_queue() finishes drainig.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -- 
> tejun
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