lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <3908561D78D1C84285E8C5FCA982C28F192F74E1@ORSMSX104.amr.corp.intel.com>
Date:	Fri, 1 Jun 2012 18:21:29 +0000
From:	"Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@...el.com>
To:	Borislav Petkov <bp@...64.org>
CC:	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@...hat.com>,
	Linux Edac Mailing List <linux-edac@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Aristeu Rozanski <arozansk@...hat.com>,
	Doug Thompson <norsk5@...oo.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	"Chen, Gong" <gong.chen@...el.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] RAS: Add a tracepoint for reporting memory controller
 events

> This is why I'm advocating the userspace - you can implement almost
> anything there - we only need the kernel to be as thin and as fast when
> reporting those errors so that we can have the most reliable and full
> info as possible. The kernel's job is only to report as many errors
> as it possibly can so that userspace can create a good picture of the
> situation.

I'm with you on this. Userspace is the right place to analyze and set
policy for actions.

But we need to make sure that user space can actually run. That's the
motivation behind the CMCI disable patches. Since Intel broadcasts CMCI
to all cpus on a socket - a CMCI storm on a single socket machine will
stop any user code from running.

I'd make one small change to what you said:

The kernel's job is to report enough error information that user space
can make an accurate assessment of the source of the error.

I.e. "enough" is less than "as many errors as it possibly can".

-Tony
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ