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Message-ID: <4FD600F4.3060902@metafoo.de>
Date:	Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:30:12 +0200
From:	Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@...afoo.de>
To:	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@....linux.org.uk>
CC:	Mark Brown <broonie@...nsource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
	Liam Girdwood <lrg@...com>, Vinod Koul <vinod.koul@...el.com>,
	alsa-devel@...a-project.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] ASoC: dmaengine-pcm: Add support for querying stream
 position from DMA device

On 06/11/2012 04:09 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 04:02:42PM +0200, Lars-Peter Clausen wrote:
>> On 06/11/2012 03:24 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 02:04:13PM +0200, Lars-Peter Clausen wrote:
>>>> @@ -202,7 +203,27 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(snd_dmaengine_pcm_trigger);
>>>>  snd_pcm_uframes_t snd_dmaengine_pcm_pointer(struct snd_pcm_substream *substream)
>>>>  {
>>>>  	struct dmaengine_pcm_runtime_data *prtd = substream_to_prtd(substream);
>>>> -	return bytes_to_frames(substream->runtime, prtd->pos);
>>>> +	struct dma_tx_state state;
>>>> +	enum dma_status status;
>>>> +	unsigned int pos;
>>>> +
>>>> +	status = dmaengine_tx_status(prtd->dma_chan, prtd->cookie, &state);
>>>> +	if (status != DMA_IN_PROGRESS && status != DMA_PAUSED) {
>>>> +		pos = 0;
>>>> +	} else if (state.residue == 0) {
>>>> +		/* This should never happen with cyclic transfers, so assume
>>>> +		 * that the dmaengine driver does not support reporting residue
>>>> +		 * and fall back to counting periods. */
>>>> +		pos = prtd->pos;
>>>
>>> That is an incorrect assumption.
>>>
>>> The current DMA position is defined by the DMA pointer.  When the DMA
>>> engine has transferred the last few bytes of the DMA, the DMA pointer
>>> will be pointing to the byte _after_ the last byte transferred in the
>>> buffer.
>>>
>>> Therefore, when you calculate the residue as (buf_start + buf_len -
>>> current_pointer) you end up with zero.
>>
>> My assumption is that for cyclic DMA it will be pointing to the first byte
>> again after the last byte has been transferred. Something like this:
>>
>> offset = (offset + 1) % buf_len
>> and current_pointer = buf_start + offset
>>
>> If this is not true for a particular DMA controller I think we should still
>> make sure in the driver for this controller that residue will never be zero
>> for cyclic transfers, but instead will return the buffer size. This is the
>> only thing that really makes sense. The buffer only has buf_len bytes, if
>> residue can be a value in the interval of [0,buf_len] this means that it has
>> buf_len+1 possible values. Which again means there must be two values which
>> map to the same state. In this case it would be 0 and buf_len.
> 
> No.  Think about it.  Think about the race conditions which can occur.
> You take a spin lock with IRQs disabled.  The DMA engine then completes
> the final transfer, and stops with the DMA pointer pointing at the byte
> after the last one transferred.  You read the DMA pointer.  Because you're
> holding a spinlock, the interrupt to tell you that the DMA has completed
> can't be delivered.  You perform the calculation I gave, and the value
> will be zero.
> 

My initial approach to this problem was to set residue to ~((u32)0) for
drivers which don't implement it. But as I said I think that residue of 0
should be reserved as a special state, which means that the transfer is
done. Since a cyclic transfer is never done (unless aborted) it should never
return a residue of zero.

Otherwise you'll have a ambiguity between a residue of 0 and a residue of
buffer_size, which in my opinion is an undesirable feature of the dmaengine API.

> That's because you need the interrupt to happen in order to restart the
> cyclic DMA.
> 
> This _does_ happen with existing drivers.  You can't ignore it.  The whole
> "return 0 if you don't implement it" has always been an absurd idea.  You
> can't reliably use it to detect lack of implementation.

In my opinion the driver should hide the fact that it emulates cyclic
transfers by the means of normal transfers and return buffer_size instead of
0 in the special case you just described.

- Lars
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