linux-kernel - Re: automated warning notifications

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Message-ID: <20120616091744.GB10332@localhost>
Date:	Sat, 16 Jun 2012 17:17:44 +0800
From:	Fengguang Wu <wfg@...ux.intel.com>
To:	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...otime.net>
Cc:	Josh Triplett <josh@...edesktop.org>,
	Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@...cle.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, kernel-janitors@...r.kernel.org,
	Julia Lawall <julia.lawall@...6.fr>,
	Peter Senna Tschudin <peter.senna@...il.com>,
	Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@...il.com>
Subject: Re: automated warning notifications

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 09:48:26AM -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote:
> On 06/15/2012 01:54 AM, Fengguang Wu wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 01:31:00AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
> >> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 03:58:10PM +0800, Fengguang Wu wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 10:12:22AM +0300, Dan Carpenter wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 09:48:35AM +0800, Fengguang Wu wrote:
> >>>>> In an average working day, 1-2 build errors will be caught and email
> >>>>> notified. I guess there will be more sparse warnings if it's turned
> >>>>> on.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Perhaps the sparse warnings can be enabled, but only sent to the patch
> >>>>> author. If you and anyone else are interested, they could be sent to
> >>>>> some mailing list, too. One thing I'm sure is, we probably never want
> >>>>> to disturb the busy maintainers with these warnings.
> >>>>
> >>>> Eventually I think we will want to set up a mailing list for this or
> >>>> we will start sending duplicate messages.
> >>>
> >>> Fair enough. How can we setup the mailing list? Once the list up, it
> >>> would be trivial for me to send sparse warnings out there.
> >>
> >> Rather than a mailing list, how about something like test.kernel.org for
> >> sparse warnings?
> > 
> > It's much more trivial to send new build/sparse errors/warnings to a
> > list than to setup a website :-) As the errors come and go every day,
> > and they are mostly unstructured, it seems the mailing list would be a
> > more natural fit. People can search for known errors there and/or CC
> > fixes there.
> > 
> > Anyway, we just sent an request for creating
> > 
> >         automated-warnings@...r.kernel.org
> 
> 
> and you will let us know when it has been created??

Well, the request has been rejected anyway..

> Although I had just as soon use an existing list, like
> kernel-janitors or kernel-testers.

>From http://kernelnewbies.org/KernelJanitors :

Some suggestions to kernel newbies:

        avoid fixing compiler warnings  because the goal is to fix the
        CAUSE of the warnings (which is usually not obvious), not just
        to make the warnings go away 

Does that suggest the commit author be the best people to fix
warnings? The typical situation may be, the author is not aware of the
warnings at all: they are buried in the tedious output of make...

Thanks,
Fengguang
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