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Message-ID: <1340996661.28750.124.camel@twins>
Date:	Fri, 29 Jun 2012 21:04:21 +0200
From:	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>
To:	dlaor@...hat.com
Cc:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>, Hillf Danton <dhillf@...il.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@...hat.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	Dan Smith <danms@...ibm.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Paul Turner <pjt@...gle.com>,
	Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@...el.com>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <laijs@...fujitsu.com>,
	Bharata B Rao <bharata.rao@...il.com>,
	Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@...com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux.com>,
	Alex Shi <alex.shi@...el.com>,
	Mauricio Faria de Oliveira <mauricfo@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@...cle.com>,
	Don Morris <don.morris@...com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/40] autonuma: CPU follow memory algorithm

On Fri, 2012-06-29 at 12:51 -0400, Dor Laor wrote:
> Some developers have a thick skin and nothing gets in, others are human 
> and have feelings. Using a tiny difference in behavior we can do much 
> much better. What's works in a f2f loud discussion doesn't play well in 
> email. 

We're all humans, we all have feelings, and I'm frigging upset.

As a maintainer I try and do my best to support and maintain the
subsystems I'm responsible for. I take this very serious.

I don't agree with the approach Andrea takes, we all know that, yet I do
want to talk about it. The problem is, many of the crucial details are
non-obvious and no sane explanation seems forthcoming.

I really feel I'm talking to deaf ears.
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