lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <20120711101150.GH1316@quack.suse.cz>
Date:	Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:11:50 +0200
From:	Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>
To:	Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@...il.com>
Cc:	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>, Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>,
	Linux FS Maling List <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Maling List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Ext4 Mailing List <linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv6 3/5] ext4: remove unnecessary superblock dirtying

On Wed 11-07-12 12:07:26, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Wed 11-07-12 12:58:16, Artem Bityutskiy wrote:
...
> > And this is the behavior this patch modifies: we stop using 's_dirt' and just
> > mark the superblock buffer as dirty right away. Indeed:
> > 
> > 1. It does not add any value to delay the I/O submission for cases 1-3 above.
> >    They are rare.
> > 2. Case number 4 above depends on whether we have file-system checksumming
> >    enabled or disables.
> >    a) If it is disabled (most common scenario), then it is all-right to just
> >       mark the superblock buffer as dirty right away and it should affect
> >       performance.
> >    b) If it is enabled, then we'll end up doing a bit more work on deletion
> >       because we'll re-calculate superblock checksum every time.
> > 
> > So case 2.b is a bit controversial, but I think it is acceptable. After all, by
> > enabling checksumming we already sign up for paying the price of calculating
> > it. The way to improve checksumming performance globally would be to calculate
> > it just before sending buffers to the I/O queue. We'd need some kind of
> > call-back which could be registered by file-systems.
  Actually, the most common case of adding orphan inode used
ext4_handle_dirty_super_now() so for that case there is no difference. And
other cases are so rare it really does not matter... So there shouldn't be
any measurable difference.

									Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ