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Message-ID: <20120717063301.GA25435@tiehlicka.suse.cz>
Date:	Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:33:01 +0200
From:	Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.cz>
To:	Hugh Dickins <hughd@...gle.com>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>, Minchan Kim <minchan@...nel.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	Ying Han <yinghan@...gle.com>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@...gle.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
	Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH mmotm] memcg: further prevent OOM with too many dirty
 pages

On Mon 16-07-12 21:52:51, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2012, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Mon 16-07-12 01:35:34, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > > But even so, the test still OOMs sometimes: when originally testing
> > > on 3.5-rc6, it OOMed about one time in five or ten; when testing
> > > just now on 3.5-rc6-mm1, it OOMed on the first iteration.
> > > 
> > > This residual problem comes from an accumulation of pages under
> > > ordinary writeback, not marked PageReclaim, so rightly not causing
> > > the memcg check to wait on their writeback: these too can prevent
> > > shrink_page_list() from freeing any pages, so many times that memcg
> > > reclaim fails and OOMs.
> > 
> > I guess you managed to trigger this with 20M limit, right?
> 
> That's right.
> 
> > I have tested
> > with different group sizes but the writeback didn't trigger for most of
> > them and all the dirty data were flushed from the reclaim.
> 
> I didn't examine writeback stats to confirm, but I guess that just
> occasionally it managed to come in and do enough work to confound us.
> 
> > Have you used any special setting the dirty ratio?
> 
> No, I wasn't imaginative enough to try that.
> 
> > Or was it with xfs (IIUC that one
> > does ignore writeback from the direct reclaim completely).
> 
> No, just ext4 at that point.
> 
> I have since tested the final patch with ext4, ext3 (by ext3 driver
> and by ext4 driver), ext2 (by ext2 driver and by ext4 driver), xfs,
> btrfs, vfat, tmpfs (with swap on the USB stick) and block device:
> about an hour on each, no surprises, all okay.
> 
> But I didn't experiment beyond the 20M memcg.

Great coverage anyway. Thanks a lot Hugh!

> 
> Hugh

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Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
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