linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] epoll: Add a flag, EPOLLWAKEUP, to prevent suspend while epoll events are ready

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Date:	Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:36:55 -0700
From:	Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
To:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
Cc:	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@...il.com>,
	Arve Hjønnevåg <arve@...roid.com>,
	NeilBrown <neilb@...e.de>,
	Linux PM list <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@...il.com>, markgross@...gnar.org,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg@...hat.com>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@...aro.org>,
	Brian Swetland <swetland@...gle.com>,
	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@...il.com>,
	"Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>, mtk@....net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] epoll: Add a flag, EPOLLWAKEUP, to prevent suspend while
 epoll events are ready

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 09:22:25PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 17, 2012, Michael Kerrisk wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 12:04 AM, Arve Hjønnevåg <arve@...roid.com> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 4:00 AM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@...k.pl> wrote:
> > >> On Monday, July 16, 2012, Michael Kerrisk wrote:
> > >>> Arve, Rafael,
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Arve Hjønnevåg <arve@...roid.com> wrote:
> > >>> > When an epoll_event, that has the EPOLLWAKEUP flag set, is ready, a
> > >>> > wakeup_source will be active to prevent suspend. This can be used to
> > >>> > handle wakeup events from a driver that support poll, e.g. input, if
> > >>> > that driver wakes up the waitqueue passed to epoll before allowing
> > >>> > suspend.
> > >>>
> > >>> It's late it the -rc series,
> > >>
> > >> Well, exactly. :-)
> > 
> > If someone had CCed linux-api@ along the way (as per
> > Documentation/SubmitChecklist), it might have helped ;-)
> 
> Well, it still _is_ late.
> 
> > >>> but it strikes me that CAP_EPOLLWAKEUP is
> > >>> a poor name for the capability that governs the use of EPOLLWAKEUP.
> > >>> While on the one hand some capabilities are overloaded
> > >>> (https://lwn.net/Articles/486306/), on the other hand we should avoid
> > >>> adding individual capabilities for each new API feature (otherwise
> > >>> capabilities become administratively unwieldy).
> > >>>
> > >>> This capability is not really about "EPOLL". It's about the ability to
> > >>> block system suspend. Therefore, IMO, a better name would be something
> > >>> like: CAP_BLOCK_SUSPEND. This name is better because there might be
> > >>> some other API feature that is later added that also has the effect of
> > >>> preventing system suspends, and we could reasonably govern that
> > >>> feature with the same capability.
> > >
> > > We already have another api, "/sys/power/wake_lock", that allow
> > > user-space to block suspend. Do we want to apply this capability that
> > > api as well, or only to apis that do not have other ways to restrict
> > > access?
> > 
> > Well, the question is: is there a governor on the use of
> > /sys/power/wake_lock? It makes sense either they are both governed
> > (preferably by the same mechanism, I would have thought), or neither
> > is.
> > 
> > >>> Does that seem sensible to you? I can send a patch for the name change.
> > >>
> > >> I'm not sure what Arve thinks about that, but I'd be fine with that.
> > >>
> > >> Arve, what do you think?
> > >>
> > >
> > > CAP_BLOCK_SUSPEND is fine with me, but if it does not apply to the
> > > sysfs interface, then the comment should probably mention this.
> > 
> > I've sent a patch, but omitted mention of API details in the comments.
> > Maybe that can be changed afterward, when a decision has been reached
> > about governing /sys/power/wake_lock.
> 
> I'm going to push your patch for v3.5, but then I'm considering the following
> one for v3.6.  I wouldn't like to make more changes in v3.5-rc at this point,
> if possible.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rafael
> 
> ---
> From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@...k.pl>
> Subject: PM / Sleep: Require CAP_BLOCK_SUSPEND to use wake_lock/wake_unlock
> 
> Require processes wanting to use the wake_lock/wake_unlock sysfs
> files to have the CAP_BLOCK_SUSPEND capability, which also is
> required for the eventpoll EPOLLWAKEUP flag to be effective, so that
> all interfaces related to blocking autosleep depend on the same
> capability.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@...k.pl>

Care to mark that for -stable as well?

thanks,

greg k-h
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