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Message-ID: <CA+55aFwr47UBoi8=i8523KnZQzOt0WB_MsOTpzVOKpsJo7PsPg@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:55:24 -0700
From:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	Jon Masters <jcm@...hat.com>
Cc:	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
	Dennis Gilmore <dennis@...il.us>,
	Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com>,
	Måns Rullgård <mans@...sr.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
	Olof Johansson <olof@...om.net>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Russell King <linux@....linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/36] AArch64 Linux kernel port

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Jon Masters <jcm@...hat.com> wrote:
>
> So we should think with a
> mindset of 2-3 years from now rather than where we were yesterday.

Why do you think aarch64 would be a better name 2-3 years from now?

And why do you think ARM management magically has good taste? They got
the PAE thing wrong too. They literally copied everything Intel did
*wrong* in this area, and we know it was wrong even with *more* than
2-3 years of hind-sight.

 "the one who does not remember history is bound to live through it again"
    - Santayana

Seriously. We've gone through exactly this on the x86 side. Your "I'm
sure it will be better in 2-3 years" has nothing to back it up. And
no, stupid marketing decisions by companies do *not* suddenly turn out
to be smart things a few years later.

              Linus
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