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Message-ID: <50082F44.7070500@suse.cz>
Date:	Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:01:08 +0200
From:	Michal Marek <mmarek@...e.cz>
To:	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>
Cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>, david@...g.hm,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@...64.org>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@...nvz.org>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@...nel.org>,
	richard -rw- weinberger <richard.weinberger@...il.com>,
	"Myklebust, Trond" <Trond.Myklebust@...app.com>,
	Dave Jones <davej@...hat.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <greg@...ah.com>,
	Ubuntu Kernel Team <kernel-team@...ts.ubuntu.com>,
	Debian Kernel Team <debian-kernel@...ts.debian.org>,
	OpenSUSE Kernel Team <opensuse-kernel@...nsuse.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@...il.com>,
	Asias He <asias.hejun@...il.com>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@...allels.com>
Subject: Re: [opensuse-kernel] Re: [RFC] Simplifying kernel configuration
 for distro issues

On 17.7.2012 10:03, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Linus Torvalds
> <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:26 PM,  <david@...g.hm> wrote:
>>> Some of the proposed ways to implement the minimum distro kernel would not
>>> allow you to override the distro defaults because they would be implemented
>>> by setting dependancies, not by selecting options that you as the user could
>>> then unselect.
>>
>> The sanest thing to do is just a list of "select" statements. And in
>> any case it would have to depend on the "distro config" entry, so EVEN
>> THEN you could just create the Kconfig file, then edit out the distro
>> config thing, and then do whatever you want.
> 
> Except that "select" is one of the ugliest things in Kconfig, as it
> blindly sets a symbol
> without checking if its dependencies are fulfilled.

But for the few options Linus proposed (TMPFS, TMPFS_POSIX_*,
DEVTMPFS(_MOUNT)), the amount of additional dependencies is reasonable.
For something more advanced like 'build me a kernel for a laptop with
$VENDOR hardware', we would need a better dependency solver, indeed.

Michal
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