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Message-Id: <201207211953.35791.rjw@sisk.pl>
Date:	Sat, 21 Jul 2012 19:53:35 +0200
From:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Ming Lei <tom.leiming@...il.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-usb" <linux-usb@...r.kernel.org>,
	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Oliver Neukum <oneukum@...e.de>,
	Linux PM list <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] firmware load: defer request_firmware during early boot and resume

On Saturday, July 21, 2012, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Ming Lei <tom.leiming@...il.com> wrote:
> > The RFC patch is just for discussing if the idea of deferring
> > request_firmware is doable for addressing the issue of
> > request_firmware in resume path, which is caused by driver
> > unbind/rebind during resume.
> 
> NAK.

[...]

> Seriously. People should load their firmware *before* the
> suspend/resume cycle. And if that isn't possible, then the system
> should ABSOLUTELY NOT silently say "whatever" and defer it until
> later.  We should have that big failure and the big noisy warning, and
> drivers that need to defer need to do so themselves, so that we never
> *ever* have that silent automatic defer situation.

Well, thanks.  I totally agree, but didn't know how to say this. :-)

Rafael
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