linux-kernel - RE: [ 11/37] sched/nohz: Rewrite and fix load-avg computation -- again

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Date:	Sat, 21 Jul 2012 09:02:21 -0700
From:	"Doug Smythies" <dsmythies@...us.net>
To:	"'Peter Zijlstra'" <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	"'Jonathan Nieder'" <jrnieder@...il.com>
Cc:	"'Greg Kroah-Hartman'" <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	<linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, <stable@...r.kernel.org>,
	<torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>, <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	<alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>, "'Ingo Molnar'" <mingo@...nel.org>,
	"Doug Smythies" <dsmythies@...us.net>
Subject: RE: [ 11/37] sched/nohz: Rewrite and fix load-avg computation -- again


> On 2012.07.20 10:26 -0700, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> On Fri, 2012-07-20 at 12:13 -0500, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
>> > Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 2012-07-17 at 19:16 -0500, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
>> 
>> >> I'm thrilled to see this regression fix for stable@, but are we really
>> >> really sure that it won't cause new regressions? 
>> >
>> > Doug Smythies ran a ~68 hour test on it, running various synthetic
loads
>> > of various frequencies against it and comparing the reported load
>> > averages against the expected values and found it to be 'good'.
>> >
>> > This doesn't guarantee we won't find more 'interesting' problems in
>> > there, but it does give me fair confidence in it.
>> 
>> Yeah, that sounds good.  Very nice to hear.
>> 
>> Is the code to generate the synthetic loads and expected results
>> somewhere easy to find (like LTP or tools/testing) to make it easier
>> to keep this code working well in the future?

> /me finds Doug isn't actually on the CC, /me fixes.

Thanks.

> Doug had this web-page with all his testing activities, graphs and code
> etc..
> http://www.smythies.com/~doug/network/load_average/
> Seems to still work.

Those web pages will be there for a long time (years).

> Last time I tried his scripts they weren't very user friendly, and afaik
> he's making the pretty graphs 'manually'. But whatever he's got is there
> I think.

Yes, pretty graphs were manually done.
Yes, scripts lack user friendliness, but everything I used is posted.

> If someone wants to take it and make it pretty and 'usable' for people
> in a hurry I'm sure Doug wouldn't mind.

Someday I might make it more useable myself. Peter's "consume.c" is
very useful also. (I haven't posted it in my web notes yet, but I will.)

The 68 hour test was just one of the tests runs, albeit the main one.
Among the other tests was what I call the "Charles Wang" scenario,
high frequency high loads.

The only operating scenario of potential concern was around higher
loads higher number of processes, where the reported load average
Was a little low and worse than the same conditions without this patch,
although still pretty good (graph attached).


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