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Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 22:21:48 +0530
From: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
CC: Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>, mingo@...nel.org,
peterz@...radead.org, rusty@...tcorp.com.au,
paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com, namhyung@...nel.org, tj@...nel.org,
rjw@...k.pl, nikunj@...ux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-pm@...r.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] CPU hotplug: Reverse invocation of notifiers
during CPU hotplug
On 07/25/2012 10:00 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jul 2012, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
>> On 07/25/2012 08:27 PM, Alan Stern wrote:
>> One of the other ideas to improve the hotplug notifier stuff that came up during some
>> of the discussions was to implement explicit dependency tracking between the notifiers
>> and perhaps get rid of the priority numbers that are currently being used to provide
>> some sort of ordering between the callbacks. Links to some of the related discussions
>> are provided below.
>
> The current code which brings up/down a CPU (mostly architecture
> specific) code is comnpletely asymetric.
>
> We really want a fully symetric state machine here, which also gives
> us the proper invocation points for the other subsystems callbacks.
>
Right..
> While I thought about having a full dependency tracking system, I'm
> quite convinced by now, that hotplug is a rather linear sequence which
> does not provide much room for paralell setup/teardown.
>
Pretty much, when considering hotplug of a single CPU.
(But when considering booting, Arjan had proposed (while discussing about his asynchronous
booting patch) that it would be good to split up physical vs logical parts of the
booting/hotplug, so that the physical part can happen in parallel with other CPUs, while
the logical online can be done serially, much later. Anyway, this is slightly off-topic
here, since we are mainly talking about hotplug of a single cpu here. I just thought of
putting a word about that here, since we are discussing hotplug redesign anyways..)
> At least we should start with a simple linear chain.
>
> The problem with the current notifiers is, that we only have ordering
> for a few specific callbacks, but we don't have the faintest idea in
> which order all other random stuff is brought up and torn down.
>
Right, and moreover there are some strange dependencies/ordering between some of
them considering facts such as, CPU_DOWN_PREPARE runs before CPU_DEAD for example,
no matter what priority you give to your callback.. Some callbacks seem to miss
this observation, IIRC.
> So I started experimenting with the following:
>
> struct hotplug_event {
> int (*bring_up)(unsigned int cpu);
> int (*tear_down)(unsigned int cpu);
> };
>
> enum hotplug_events {
> CPU_HOTPLUG_START,
> CPU_HOTPLUG_CREATE_THREADS,
> CPU_HOTPLUG_INIT_TIMERS,
> ...
> CPU_HOTPLUG_KICK_CPU,
> ...
> CPU_HOTPLUG_START_THREADS,
> ...
> CPU_HOTPLUG_SET_ONLINE,
> ...
> CPU_HOTPLUG_MAX_EVENTS,
> };
>
> Now I have two arrays:
>
> struct hotplug_event hotplug_events_bp[CPU_HOTPLUG_MAX_EVENTS];
> struct hotplug_event hotplug_events_ap[CPU_HOTPLUG_MAX_EVENTS];
>
> The _bp one is the list of events which are executed on the active cpu
> and the _ap ones are those executed on the hotplugged cpu.
>
> The core code advances the events in sync steps, so both BP and AP can
> issue a stop on the process and cause a rollback.
>
Looks like a nice design!
> Most of the callbacks can be added to the arrays at compile time, just
> the stuff which is in modules requires an register/unregister
> interface.
>
> Though in any case the enum gives us a very explicit ordering of
> setup/teardown, so rollback or partial online/offline should be simple
> to achieve.
>
> The only drawback is that it will prevent out of tree modules to use
> the hotplug infrastructure, but I really couldn't care less.
>
Heh ;-)
Regards,
Srivatsa S. Bhat
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