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Message-ID: <87r4rwvzop.fsf@nemi.mork.no>
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:27:02 +0200
From: Bjørn Mork <bjorn@...k.no>
To: Daniel Mack <zonque@...il.com>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
Sarbojit Ganguly <unixman.linuxboy@...il.com>,
gregkh@...uxfoundation.org, linux-usb@...r.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@...e.de>
Subject: Re: Kernel Oops while disconnecting USB peripheral (always)
Daniel Mack <zonque@...il.com> writes:
> On 23.07.2012 16:47, Alan Stern wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2012, Sarbojit Ganguly wrote:
>>> That is why I provided two stacks,
>>>
>>> 1st one is when I tried to remove the USB hub (which connects a webcam
>>> + microphone)
>>> 2nd one is when I tried to remove an USB powered external HDD.
>>>
>>> Just to make sure whether the problem is with USB sound or the USB subsystem.
>>
>> Do you stop all the programs that are using the USB devices before
>> unplugging the hub? Do you unmount the USB HDD first?
>>
>> The first crash shows a problem in the snd-usb-audio driver.
>>
>> The second crash shows a problem in the VFS layer or in ext3, not in
>> the USB stack.
>
> I dare to doubt there are two severe bugs of that kind that are 100%
> reproducible. I haven't had a hotplug crash in any of the two drivers
> for a long time, and I use both of them extensively.
Actually, based on the recent usb_wwan experience, I'd say that two such
bugs isn't as unlikely as it may seem at first. Even three if we add
the now fixed usb_wwan (or six, if we count the three drivers affected
by the usb_wwan bug). There are probably even more.
The reason is this change:
0998d0631 device-core: Ensure drvdata = NULL when no driver is bound
It will make bugs like this suddenly 100% reproducible. But the bugs
*are* in the drivers, and may have been there for a long time. The
drivers have been accessing drvdata after unbinding. They just didn't
crash prior to that commit.
But the commit is correct, and a very much needed improvement if my
assumptions are correct. The drivers need fixing and this just makes it
evident.
> I rather assume there's something else failing, probably some host
> controller issue that corrupts mempory? Can anyone else reproduce this
> maybe?
You could of course do like me and bisect, but if you end up with commit
0998d0631 then you haven't really learned more than confirming my guess.
Bjørn
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