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Message-ID: <CAFm5wm1SSmbdi09hc1Qo1eHw5Tc0vbMf1hWuNw-cjZEEx3jX5w@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 3 Aug 2012 15:48:26 -0700
From:	"Pandita, Vikram" <vikram.pandita@...com>
To:	Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
Cc:	Aaro Koskinen <aaro.koskinen@....fi>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>, kay@...y.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-omap@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org,
	Mike Turquette <mturquette@...aro.org>,
	Vimarsh Zutshi <vimarsh.zutshi@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] printk: add option to print cpu id

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 03:25:17PM -0700, Pandita, Vikram wrote:
>> >> This was something that got used internally and helped at times.
>> >
>> > Could you have used the trace point instead?
>>
>> As i understood the trace_prink(), one would need to modify existing
>> printk -> trace_printk. Is my understanding correct?
>
> No, you should just be able to watch the tracepoint, right?

yes.
Assumption being you know _EXACTLY_ what code piece to watch for.
Which may not be the case all times.

>
>> Most of the times the problem exhibits as a random hang, without having a clue
>> which code to modify. That time one generic defconfig global switch is
>> your first tool.
>>
>> Other issue i found, using this patch, that on multi-core ARM systems,
>> almost 99% of times, IRQ's are handled by CPU0,
>> even if CPU0 was really busy and other CPU's were free. I am yet to
>> understand a good reason why.
>
> Can't you see that from /proc/interrupts today?

You are right that was the next step i did and that shows the problem as well.
The point i was trying to make, with printk showing cpu-id, there are
problems in system that could get highlighted,
given printk almost always runs with linux kernel.

>
>> this patch also helped in other areas as mentioned in the thread
>> http://marc.info/?l=linux-omap&m=134401269106619&w=2
>
> I still don't understand how adding the cpu number to printk enabled you
> to find any problem like this.  Can't you just add the cpu number to the
> printk messages you care about for your specific hardware?
>

The assumption here is that a developer knows well enough, which code
to modify for logging.
I my experience, that is not true most of the times. A global
defconfig switch is much easier to enable.

Eg: when i have some timing related issue, first thing i go for is to
enable PRINTK_TIME, without even
having to think about the erring code. Then time-stamps lead to bad code.

That is the same though process behind the cpu-id in printk.


> greg k-h
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