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Message-ID: <50202B2F.5000003@linaro.org>
Date:	Mon, 06 Aug 2012 13:38:07 -0700
From:	John Stultz <john.stultz@...aro.org>
To:	Minchan Kim <minchan@...nel.org>
CC:	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Android Kernel Team <kernel-team@...roid.com>,
	Robert Love <rlove@...gle.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@....ul.ie>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@...gle.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	Dmitry Adamushko <dmitry.adamushko@...il.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>, Neil Brown <neilb@...e.de>,
	Andrea Righi <andrea@...terlinux.com>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Mike Hommey <mh@...ndium.org>, Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@...il.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@...gle.com>,
	dan.magenheimer@...cle.com,
	"linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] [RFC][HACK] Add LRU_VOLATILE support to the VM

On 08/05/2012 08:04 PM, Minchan Kim wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:57:11PM -0400, John Stultz wrote:
>> In an attempt to push the volatile range managment even
>> deeper into the VM code, this is my first attempt at
>> implementing Minchan's idea of a LRU_VOLATILE list in
>> the mm core.
>>
>> This list sits along side the LRU_ACTIVE_ANON, _INACTIVE_ANON,
>> _ACTIVE_FILE, _INACTIVE_FILE and _UNEVICTABLE lru lists.
>>
>> When a range is marked volatile, the pages in that range
>> are moved to the LRU_VOLATILE list. Since volatile pages
>> can be quickly purged, this list is the first list we
>> shrink when we need to free memory.
>>
>> When a page is marked non-volatile, it is moved from the
>> LRU_VOLATILE list to the appropriate LRU_ACTIVE_ list.
> I think active list promotion is not good.
> It should go to the inactive list and they get a chance to
> activate from inactive to active sooner or later if it is
> really touched.

Ok. Thanks, I'll change it so we move to the inactive list then.


>> This patch introduces the LRU_VOLATILE list, an isvolatile
>> page flag, functions to mark and unmark a single page
>> as volatile, and shrinker functions to purge volatile
>> pages.
>>
>> This is a very raw first pass, and is neither performant
>> or likely bugfree. It works in my trivial testing, but
>> I've not pushed it very hard yet.
>>
>> I wanted to send it out just to get some inital thoughts
>> on the approach and any suggestions should I be going too
>> far in the wrong direction.
> I look at this series and found several nitpicks about implemenataion
> but I think it's not a good stage about concerning it.

Although while I know the design may still need significant change, I'd 
still appreciate nitpicks, as they might help me better understand the 
mm code and any mistakes I'm making.


> Although naming is rather differet with I suggested, I think it's good idea.
> So let's talk about it firstly.
> I will call VOLATILE list as EReclaimale LRU list.
Yea, I didn't want to call it ERECLAIMABLE since for this iteration I 
was limiting the scope just to volatile pages. I'm totally fine renaming 
it as the scope widens.

thanks
-john

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