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Message-ID: <5028D2B0.4010800@ce.jp.nec.com>
Date:	Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:10:56 +0900
From:	"Jun'ichi Nomura" <j-nomura@...jp.nec.com>
To:	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>
CC:	Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@...jp.nec.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi.kleen@...el.com>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@...el.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	Naoya Horiguchi <nhoriguc@...hat.com>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, stable@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] HWPOISON: undo memory error handling for dirty pagecache

On 08/11/12 08:09, Andi Kleen wrote:
> Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@...jp.nec.com> writes:
> 
>> Current memory error handling on dirty pagecache has a bug that user
>> processes who use corrupted pages via read() or write() can't be aware
>> of the memory error and result in discarding dirty data silently.
>>
>> The following patch is to improve handling/reporting memory errors on
>> this case, but as a short term solution I suggest that we should undo
>> the present error handling code and just leave errors for such cases
>> (which expect the 2nd MCE to panic the system) to ensure data consistency.
> 
> Not sure that's the right approach. It's not worse than any other IO 
> errors isn't it? 

IMO, it's worse in certain cases.  For example, producer-consumer type
program which uses file as a temporary storage.
Current memory-failure.c drops produced data from dirty pagecache
and allows reader to consume old or empty data from disk (silently!),
that's what I think HWPOISON should prevent.

Similar thing could happen theoretically with disk I/O errors,
though, practically those errors are often persistent and reader will
likely get errors again instead of bad data.
Also, ext3/ext4 has an option to panic when an error is detected,
for people who want to avoid corruption on intermittent errors.

-- 
Jun'ichi Nomura, NEC Corporation

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