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Message-ID: <20120821130930.GA10382@redhat.com>
Date:	Tue, 21 Aug 2012 15:09:30 +0200
From:	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>
To:	Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@...ibm.com>
Cc:	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@...ts.ozlabs.org, lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>,
	Anton Blanchard <anton@...ba.org>, michael@...erman.id.au,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, peterz@...radead.org,
	Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] powerpc: Uprobes port to powerpc

On 08/21, Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli wrote:
>
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 05:00:31PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>
> > > We should also take
> > > care of the in-memory copy, in case gdb had inserted a breakpoint at the
> > > same location, right?
> >
> > gdb (or even the application itself) and uprobes can obviously confuse
> > each other, in many ways, and we can do nothing at least currently.
> > Just we should ensure that the kernel can't crash/hang/etc.
>
> Absolutely. The proper fix for this at least from a breakpoint insertion
> perspective is to educate gdb (possibly ptrace itself) to fail on a
> breakpoint insertion request on an already existing one.

Oh, I don't think this is possible. And there are other problems like
this. Uprobe can confuse gdb too, in many ways. For example,
uprobe_register() can wrongly _remove_ int3 installed by gdb.

The proper fix, I think, is to rework the whole idea about uprobe bps,
but this is really "in the long term". install_breakpoint() should
only unmap the page and mark its pte as "owned by kernel, FOLL_WRITE
should not work". Something like migration or PROT_NONE. The task
itself should install bp during the page fault. And we need the
"backing store" for the pages with uprobes. Yes, this all is very
vague and I can be wrong.

Anyway, this is relatively minor, we have more serious problems.

> > > Updating is_swbp_insn() per-arch where needed will
> > > take care of both the cases, 'cos it gets called before
> > > arch_analyze_uprobe_insn() too.
> >
> > For example. set_swbp()->is_swbp_insn() == T means that (for example)
> > uprobe_register() and uprobe_mmap() raced with each other and there is
> > no need for set_swbp().
>
> This is true for Intel like architectures that have *one* swbp
> instruction. On Powerpc, gdb for instance, can insert a trap variant at
> the address. Therefore, is_swbp_insn() by definition should return true
> for all trap variants.

Not in this case, I think.

OK, I was going to do this later, but this discussion makes me think
I should try to send the patch sooner.

set_swbp()->is_swbp_at_addr() is simply unneeded and in fact should
be considered as unnecessary pessimization.

set_orig_insn()->is_swbp_at_addr() makes more sense, but it can't fix
all races with userpace. Still it should die.

> OK. I will separate out the is_swbp_insn() change into a separate patch.

Great thanks. And if we remove is_swbp_insn() from set_swbp() and
set_orig_insn() then the semantics of is_swbp_insn() will much more
clear, and in this case I powerpc probably really needs to change it.

Oleg.

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