linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 11/26] rcu: Exit RCU extended QS on user preemption

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Message-ID: <20120912135420.GB17139@somewhere.redhat.com>
Date:	Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:54:50 +0200
From:	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, mingo@...e.hu, laijs@...fujitsu.com,
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	eric.dumazet@...il.com, darren@...art.com, sbw@....edu,
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	Avi Kivity <avi@...hat.com>,
	Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@...era.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux.com>,
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	Hakan Akkan <hakanakkan@...il.com>,
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	Kevin Hilman <khilman@...com>,
	Max Krasnyansky <maxk@...lcomm.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@...tta.com>,
	Sven-Thorsten Dietrich <thebigcorporation@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 11/26] rcu: Exit RCU extended QS on user
 preemption

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 02:52:40PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 14:41 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
> > We could of course mandate that all remote wakeups to special nohz cpus
> > get queued. That would just leave us with RCU and it would simply not
> > send resched IPIs to extended quiescent CPUs anyway, right?
> > 
> > So at that point all return to user schedule() calls have nr_running > 1
> > and the tick is running and RCU is not in extended quiescent state.
> > Since either we had nr_running > 1 and pre and post state are the same,
> > or we had nr_running == 1 and we just got a fresh wakeup pushing it to
> > 2, the wakeup will have executed on our cpu and have re-started the tick
> > and kicked RCU into active gear again.
> > 
> > We cannot hit return to user schedule() with nr_running == 0, simply
> > because in that case there's no userspace to return to, only the idle
> > thread and that's very much not userspace :-)
> > 
> > Hmm ?
> 
> Crap.. this will screw over -rt, since the wakeups batch the IPI can
> take forever so we had to disable this.

I don't know that part of -rt. Probably we can deal with that later once
we have some upstream code in place?

> 
> Bugger it.. I so detest this patch.
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