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Message-ID: <20120916122112.3f16178d@pyramind.ukuu.org.uk>
Date:	Sun, 16 Sep 2012 12:21:12 +0100
From:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To:	ebiederm@...ssion.com (Eric W. Biederman)
Cc:	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@...lyn.com>,
	Aristeu Rozanski <aris@...vo.org>,
	Neil Horman <nhorman@...driver.com>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@...ibm.com>,
	containers@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.cz>,
	Thomas Graf <tgraf@...g.ch>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...stprotocols.net>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>, cgroups@...r.kernel.org,
	Paul Turner <pjt@...gle.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: Controlling devices and device namespaces

> One piece of the puzzle is that we should be able to allow unprivileged
> device node creation and access for any device on any filesystem
> for which it unprivileged access is safe.

Which devices are "safe" is policy for all interesting and useful cases,
as are file permissions, security tags, chroot considerations and the
like.

It's a complete non starter.

Alan
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