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Date:	Mon, 1 Oct 2012 20:44:59 -0700 (PDT)
From:	David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>
To:	Tim Shepard <shep@...m.mit.edu>
cc:	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...otime.net>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: CONFIG_EXPERT is a booby trap

On Mon, 1 Oct 2012, Tim Shepard wrote:

> Interestingly, of the 26 configs that use EXPERT in the default
> clause, 15 of them are in drivers/hid (see below).
> 
> 			-Tim Shepard
> 			 shep@...m.mit.edu
> 
>  - -  - -  - -  - -  - -  - -  - -  - -  - -  - -  - -  - -  - -  - - 
> 
> $ find . -type f -name Kconfig'*' -print | xargs fgrep default | grep EXPERT 
> ./drivers/hid/Kconfig:  default !EXPERT
> ./drivers/hid/Kconfig:  default !EXPERT
> ./drivers/hid/Kconfig:  default !EXPERT
> ./drivers/hid/Kconfig:  default !EXPERT
> ./drivers/hid/Kconfig:  default !EXPERT
> ./drivers/hid/Kconfig:  default !EXPERT
> ./drivers/hid/Kconfig:  default !EXPERT
> ./drivers/hid/Kconfig:  default !EXPERT
> ./drivers/hid/Kconfig:  default !EXPERT
> ./drivers/hid/Kconfig:  default !EXPERT
> ./drivers/hid/Kconfig:  default !EXPERT
> ./drivers/hid/Kconfig:  default !EXPERT
> ./drivers/hid/Kconfig:  default !EXPERT
> ./drivers/hid/Kconfig:  default !EXPERT
> ./drivers/hid/Kconfig:  default !EXPERT
> ./drivers/media/common/tuners/Kconfig:  default y if !EXPERT
> ./drivers/media/common/tuners/Kconfig:  default y if EXPERT
> ./drivers/media/dvb/frontends/Kconfig:  default y if EXPERT
> ./drivers/media/video/Kconfig:  default y if !EXPERT
> ./init/Kconfig: default !EXPERT
> ./lib/Kconfig.debug:    default !EXPERT
> ./net/rfkill/Kconfig:   default y if !EXPERT
> ./usr/Kconfig:  default !EXPERT
> ./usr/Kconfig:  default !EXPERT
> ./usr/Kconfig:  default !EXPERT
> ./usr/Kconfig:  default !EXPERT

I don't think selecting CONFIG_EXPERT should change whether a config 
option is enabled or disabled by default, I think it should only change 
whether certain options are available for enabling or disabling.  These do 
need care when fixing, though, and in the above circumstances you may find 
that s/EXPERT/EMBEDDED/ is the right change.
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