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Message-ID: <CAPXgP13DaCK7LxfSxhB-TTe6=fkN4UjQC=Zynm30gqycJOyMpg@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Wed, 3 Oct 2012 23:04:00 +0200
From:	Kay Sievers <kay@...y.org>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@...hat.com>,
	Ming Lei <ming.lei@...onical.com>,
	Lennart Poettering <lennart@...ttering.net>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@...r.kernel.org>,
	Michael Krufky <mkrufky@...uxtv.org>,
	Ivan Kalvachev <ikalvachev@...il.com>
Subject: Re: udev breakages - was: Re: Need of an ".async_probe()" type of
 callback at driver's core - Was: Re: [PATCH] [media] drxk: change it to use request_firmware_nowait()

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok, like this?
>>
>> This looks good to me.  Having udev do firmware loading and tieing it to
>> the driver model may have not been such a good idea so many years ago.
>> Doing it this way makes more sense.
>
> Ok, I wish this had been getting more testing in Linux-next or
> something, but I suspect that what I'll do is to commit this patch
> asap, and then commit another patch that turns off udev firmware
> loading entirely for the synchronous firmware loading case.
>
> Why? Just to get more testing, and seeing if there are reports of
> breakage. Maybe some udev out there has a different search path (or
> because udev runs in a different filesystem namespace or whatever), in
> which case running udev as a fallback would otherwise hide the fact
> that he direct kernel firmware loading isn't working.

> Ok? Comments?

The current udev directory search order is:
  /lib/firmware/updates/$(uname -r)/
  /lib/firmware/updates/
  /lib/firmware/$(uname -r)/
  /lib/firmware/

There is no commonly known /firmware directory.

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree/src/udev/udev-builtin-firmware.c#n100
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree/configure.ac#n548

Kay
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