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Message-ID: <87ipaq1q54.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix>
Date:	Thu, 04 Oct 2012 11:35:19 +0100
From:	Nix <nix@...eri.org.uk>
To:	Al Viro <viro@...IV.linux.org.uk>
Cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@...hat.com>,
	Ming Lei <ming.lei@...onical.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: udev breakages -

[Kay removed because I don't like emailing arguable flamebait directly
to the person flamed.]

On 4 Oct 2012, nix@...eri.org.uk stated:

> By udev 175 I, and a lot of other people, had simply stopped upgrading
> udev entirely on the grounds that we could no longer tolerate the
> uncertainty over whether our systems would boot every time we upgraded
> it, for no discernible benefit. Yes, all the incompatible changes are
> (or were, as of udev 175) called out in the release notes -- but there
> are so *many* of them, it's easy to miss one. And they all seem so
> completely unnecessary, and their implications for your system
> configuration grow more and more invasive all the time.

In the bright light of day I realize that this post is not as off-topic
for this thread as it appears. This is all of a piece. The udev
maintainer insists that everyone else adapt to udev's demands: before
now, it has been users, sysadmins, and userspace who must adapt, but now
is is pushing its demands in the other direction as well: this thread is
the result.

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