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Message-ID: <87y5jjs9h9.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix>
Date:	Sat, 06 Oct 2012 20:09:54 +0100
From:	Nix <nix@...eri.org.uk>
To:	Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@....eng.br>
Cc:	david@...g.hm, Emmanuel Benisty <benisty.e@...il.com>,
	Kurt H Maier <khm@....org>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: udev breakages -

On 5 Oct 2012, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh told this:

> On Fri, 05 Oct 2012, david@...g.hm wrote:
>> >On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Kurt H Maier <khm@....org> wrote:
>> >>On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 07:27:01PM +0000, Al Viro wrote:
>> >>>Al, that -><- close to volunteering for maintaining that FPOS kernel-side...
>> >>
>> >>This would be fantastic.
>> >
>> >And that would solve this very much worrying issue [1], quoting:
>> >"(Yes, udev on non-systemd systems is in our eyes a dead end, in case you
>> >haven't noticed it yet. I am looking forward to the day when we can drop
>> >that support entirely.)"
>> >
>> >[1] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2012-August/006066.html
>> 
>> I think it's worth noting that even though udev 189 was recently
>> released, the not-yet-released Ubuntu 10.10 is going to be including
>> udev 175.
>
> So is Debian.

I'm a bit surprised they didn't stick with 168, really. Even udev 175
requires a /usr mount in the initramfs, and devtmpfs (though the latter
is easy to replace). The former is probably a good idea anyway. The
latter... for any system other than the very largest, or embedded
systems that must boot in a second or less, I can't see a benefit.

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