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Message-ID: <20121016112845.GA13540@shutemov.name>
Date:	Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:28:45 +0300
From:	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@...temov.name>
To:	Ni zhan Chen <nizhan.chen@...il.com>
Cc:	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@...hat.com>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...ux.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/10, REBASED] Introduce huge zero page

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 07:13:07PM +0800, Ni zhan Chen wrote:
> On 10/16/2012 06:54 PM, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> >On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 05:53:07PM +0800, Ni zhan Chen wrote:
> >>>By hpa request I've tried alternative approach for hzp implementation (see
> >>>Virtual huge zero page patchset): pmd table with all entries set to zero
> >>>page. This way should be more cache friendly, but it increases TLB
> >>>pressure.
> >>Thanks for your excellent works. But could you explain me why
> >>current implementation not cache friendly and hpa's request cache
> >>friendly? Thanks in advance.
> >In workloads like microbenchmark1 you need N * size(zero page) cache
> >space to get zero page fully cached, where N is cache associativity.
> >If zero page is 2M, cache pressure is significant.
> >
> >On other hand with table of 4k zero pages (hpa's proposal) will increase
> >pressure on TLB, since we have more pages for the same memory area. So we
> >have to do more page translation in this case.
> >
> >On my test machine with simple memcmp() virtual huge zero page is faster.
> >But it highly depends on TLB size, cache size, memory access and page
> >translation costs.
> >
> >It looks like cache size in modern processors grows faster than TLB size.
> 
> Oh, I see, thanks for your quick response. Another one question below,
> 
> >
> >>>The problem with virtual huge zero page: it requires per-arch enabling.
> >>>We need a way to mark that pmd table has all ptes set to zero page.
> >>>
> >>>Some numbers to compare two implementations (on 4s Westmere-EX):
> >>>
> >>>Mirobenchmark1
> >>>==============
> >>>
> >>>test:
> >>>         posix_memalign((void **)&p, 2 * MB, 8 * GB);
> >>>         for (i = 0; i < 100; i++) {
> >>>                 assert(memcmp(p, p + 4*GB, 4*GB) == 0);
> >>>                 asm volatile ("": : :"memory");
> >>>         }
> >>>
> >>>hzp:
> >>>  Performance counter stats for './test_memcmp' (5 runs):
> >>>
> >>>       32356.272845 task-clock                #    0.998 CPUs utilized            ( +-  0.13% )
> >>>                 40 context-switches          #    0.001 K/sec                    ( +-  0.94% )
> >>>                  0 CPU-migrations            #    0.000 K/sec
> >>>              4,218 page-faults               #    0.130 K/sec                    ( +-  0.00% )
> >>>     76,712,481,765 cycles                    #    2.371 GHz                      ( +-  0.13% ) [83.31%]
> >>>     36,279,577,636 stalled-cycles-frontend   #   47.29% frontend cycles idle     ( +-  0.28% ) [83.35%]
> >>>      1,684,049,110 stalled-cycles-backend    #    2.20% backend  cycles idle     ( +-  2.96% ) [66.67%]
> >>>    134,355,715,816 instructions              #    1.75  insns per cycle
> >>>                                              #    0.27  stalled cycles per insn  ( +-  0.10% ) [83.35%]
> >>>     13,526,169,702 branches                  #  418.039 M/sec                    ( +-  0.10% ) [83.31%]
> >>>          1,058,230 branch-misses             #    0.01% of all branches          ( +-  0.91% ) [83.36%]
> >>>
> >>>       32.413866442 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.13% )
> >>>
> >>>vhzp:
> >>>  Performance counter stats for './test_memcmp' (5 runs):
> >>>
> >>>       30327.183829 task-clock                #    0.998 CPUs utilized            ( +-  0.13% )
> >>>                 38 context-switches          #    0.001 K/sec                    ( +-  1.53% )
> >>>                  0 CPU-migrations            #    0.000 K/sec
> >>>              4,218 page-faults               #    0.139 K/sec                    ( +-  0.01% )
> >>>     71,964,773,660 cycles                    #    2.373 GHz                      ( +-  0.13% ) [83.35%]
> >>>     31,191,284,231 stalled-cycles-frontend   #   43.34% frontend cycles idle     ( +-  0.40% ) [83.32%]
> >>>        773,484,474 stalled-cycles-backend    #    1.07% backend  cycles idle     ( +-  6.61% ) [66.67%]
> >>>    134,982,215,437 instructions              #    1.88  insns per cycle
> >>>                                              #    0.23  stalled cycles per insn  ( +-  0.11% ) [83.32%]
> >>>     13,509,150,683 branches                  #  445.447 M/sec                    ( +-  0.11% ) [83.34%]
> >>>          1,017,667 branch-misses             #    0.01% of all branches          ( +-  1.07% ) [83.32%]
> >>>
> >>>       30.381324695 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.13% )
> >>Could you tell me which data I should care in this performance
> >>counter. And what's the benefit of your current implementation
> >>compare to hpa's request?
> 
> Sorry for my unintelligent. Could you tell me which data I should
> care in this performance counter stats. The same question about the
> second benchmark counter stats, thanks in adance. :-)

I've missed relevant counters in this run, you can see them in the second
benchmark.

Relevant counters:
L1-dcache-*, LLC-*: shows cache related stats (hits/misses);
dTLB-*: shows data TLB hits and misses.

Indirect relevant counters:
stalled-cycles-*: how long CPU pipeline has to wait for data.

> >>>Mirobenchmark2
> >>>==============
> >>>
> >>>test:
> >>>         posix_memalign((void **)&p, 2 * MB, 8 * GB);
> >>>         for (i = 0; i < 1000; i++) {
> >>>                 char *_p = p;
> >>>                 while (_p < p+4*GB) {
> >>>                         assert(*_p == *(_p+4*GB));
> >>>                         _p += 4096;
> >>>                         asm volatile ("": : :"memory");
> >>>                 }
> >>>         }
> >>>
> >>>hzp:
> >>>  Performance counter stats for 'taskset -c 0 ./test_memcmp2' (5 runs):
> >>>
> >>>        3505.727639 task-clock                #    0.998 CPUs utilized            ( +-  0.26% )
> >>>                  9 context-switches          #    0.003 K/sec                    ( +-  4.97% )
> >>>              4,384 page-faults               #    0.001 M/sec                    ( +-  0.00% )
> >>>      8,318,482,466 cycles                    #    2.373 GHz                      ( +-  0.26% ) [33.31%]
> >>>      5,134,318,786 stalled-cycles-frontend   #   61.72% frontend cycles idle     ( +-  0.42% ) [33.32%]
> >>>      2,193,266,208 stalled-cycles-backend    #   26.37% backend  cycles idle     ( +-  5.51% ) [33.33%]
> >>>      9,494,670,537 instructions              #    1.14  insns per cycle
> >>>                                              #    0.54  stalled cycles per insn  ( +-  0.13% ) [41.68%]
> >>>      2,108,522,738 branches                  #  601.451 M/sec                    ( +-  0.09% ) [41.68%]
> >>>            158,746 branch-misses             #    0.01% of all branches          ( +-  1.60% ) [41.71%]
> >>>      3,168,102,115 L1-dcache-loads
> >>>           #  903.693 M/sec                    ( +-  0.11% ) [41.70%]
> >>>      1,048,710,998 L1-dcache-misses
> >>>          #   33.10% of all L1-dcache hits    ( +-  0.11% ) [41.72%]
> >>>      1,047,699,685 LLC-load
> >>>                  #  298.854 M/sec                    ( +-  0.03% ) [33.38%]
> >>>              2,287 LLC-misses
> >>>                #    0.00% of all LL-cache hits     ( +-  8.27% ) [33.37%]
> >>>      3,166,187,367 dTLB-loads
> >>>                #  903.147 M/sec                    ( +-  0.02% ) [33.35%]
> >>>          4,266,538 dTLB-misses
> >>>               #    0.13% of all dTLB cache hits   ( +-  0.03% ) [33.33%]
> >>>
> >>>        3.513339813 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.26% )
> >>>
> >>>vhzp:
> >>>  Performance counter stats for 'taskset -c 0 ./test_memcmp2' (5 runs):
> >>>
> >>>       27313.891128 task-clock                #    0.998 CPUs utilized            ( +-  0.24% )
> >>>                 62 context-switches          #    0.002 K/sec                    ( +-  0.61% )
> >>>              4,384 page-faults               #    0.160 K/sec                    ( +-  0.01% )
> >>>     64,747,374,606 cycles                    #    2.370 GHz                      ( +-  0.24% ) [33.33%]
> >>>     61,341,580,278 stalled-cycles-frontend   #   94.74% frontend cycles idle     ( +-  0.26% ) [33.33%]
> >>>     56,702,237,511 stalled-cycles-backend    #   87.57% backend  cycles idle     ( +-  0.07% ) [33.33%]
> >>>     10,033,724,846 instructions              #    0.15  insns per cycle
> >>>                                              #    6.11  stalled cycles per insn  ( +-  0.09% ) [41.65%]
> >>>      2,190,424,932 branches                  #   80.195 M/sec                    ( +-  0.12% ) [41.66%]
> >>>          1,028,630 branch-misses             #    0.05% of all branches          ( +-  1.50% ) [41.66%]
> >>>      3,302,006,540 L1-dcache-loads
> >>>           #  120.891 M/sec                    ( +-  0.11% ) [41.68%]
> >>>        271,374,358 L1-dcache-misses
> >>>          #    8.22% of all L1-dcache hits    ( +-  0.04% ) [41.66%]
> >>>         20,385,476 LLC-load
> >>>                  #    0.746 M/sec                    ( +-  1.64% ) [33.34%]
> >>>             76,754 LLC-misses
> >>>                #    0.38% of all LL-cache hits     ( +-  2.35% ) [33.34%]
> >>>      3,309,927,290 dTLB-loads
> >>>                #  121.181 M/sec                    ( +-  0.03% ) [33.34%]
> >>>      2,098,967,427 dTLB-misses
> >>>               #   63.41% of all dTLB cache hits   ( +-  0.03% ) [33.34%]
> >>>
> >>>       27.364448741 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.24% )
> >>For this case, the same question as above, thanks in adance. :-)
> 

-- 
 Kirill A. Shutemov
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