linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v4 10/10] thp: implement refcounting for huge zero page

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Message-Id: <20121023155915.7d5ef9d1.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Date:	Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:59:15 -0700
From:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com>
Cc:	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@...temov.name>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@...hat.com>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...ux.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 10/10] thp: implement refcounting for huge zero page

On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:00:18 +0300
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com> wrote:

> > Well, how hard is it to trigger the bad behavior?  One can easily
> > create a situation in which that page's refcount frequently switches
> > from 0 to 1 and back again.  And one can easily create a situation in
> > which the shrinkers are being called frequently.  Run both at the same
> > time and what happens?
> 
> If the goal is to trigger bad behavior then:
> 
> 1. read from an area where a huge page can be mapped to get huge zero page
>    mapped. hzp is allocated here. refcounter == 2.
> 2. write to the same page. refcounter == 1.
> 3. echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches. refcounter == 0 -> free the hzp.
> 4. goto 1.
> 
> But it's unrealistic. /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches is only root-accessible.

Yes, drop_caches is uninteresting.

> We can trigger shrinker only under memory pressure. But in this, most
> likely we will get -ENOMEM on hzp allocation and will go to fallback path
> (4k zero page).

I disagree.  If, for example, there is a large amount of clean
pagecache being generated then the shrinkers will be called frequently
and memory reclaim will be running at a 100% success rate.  The
hugepage allocation will be successful in such a situation?

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